I broke the Moser shafts !!!

kiwicar · Post by **kiwicar** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:14 pm

ChrisJC wrote:Do people ever do anything radical like get the axle of a 7 tonne truck and make that narrower?

Chris.

the most common original home for a ford 9" when not in large ford saloons was in one of these http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign ... /23/design
the same thing goes for the GM 12 bolt, both were used in closed body delivery vans, 3 and 7 toners to you and me!
common axels for smaller dragsters are the sherpa axle and ones out of sprinters and double wheel ford transits, what people are generally looking for is suitable axle ratios to go with large diameter slicks, car axles tend to be too high, the sherpa is very good, the transits are OK (dana internals on many) and good low ratios, the sprinter is meant to be OK but better for mid outputs on light cars.
best regards
Mike
best regards
Mike

Blown v8 · Post by **Blown v8** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:16 pm

Here's mine after coming back from the powdercoaters,

Strange shafts live inside mine

kiwicar · Post by **kiwicar** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:54 pm

Hi
very nice, how many horsies are you planning to shove through that little chap then, you have some serious bracing on the case. . .
Nice chassis table you have there sir, no chance of me renting mine to you is there!
best regards
Mike

Blown v8 · Post by **Blown v8** » Tue Jan 28, 2014 3:41 pm

Not my table,belongs to my mate (Large Engineering) who braced and converted my axle from ladder bar to four bar,power is 420, extra bracing as I have over a yard of rubber on the back !

ChrisJC · Post by **ChrisJC** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:31 pm

kiwicar wrote:
ChrisJC wrote:Do people ever do anything radical like get the axle of a 7 tonne truck and make that narrower?

Chris.
the most common original home for a ford 9" when not in large ford saloons was in one of these http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign ... /23/design
the same thing goes for the GM 12 bolt, both were used in closed body delivery vans, 3 and 7 toners to you and me!
common axels for smaller dragsters are the sherpa axle and ones out of sprinters and double wheel ford transits, what people are generally looking for is suitable axle ratios to go with large diameter slicks, car axles tend to be too high, the sherpa is very good, the transits are OK (dana internals on many) and good low ratios, the sprinter is meant to be OK but better for mid outputs on light cars.
best regards
Mike
best regards
Mike

I see, very sensible. I didn't know where the 9" came from. If it'll run those yellow buses, I'm sure it'll be OK in a knackered old MGBV8!

Chris.

kiwicar · Post by **kiwicar** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:59 pm

Hi Chris
they turn up in all sorts of stuff, Ford in the US like GM share parts bins across divisions far more than the European equivalents. The big block engines are truck (lorry) engines really, that is why Chevy big block will bore to +125 thou, they are intended to be in tractor units that cover 250k miles a year, you run one engine rebore and rebuild a second, that is why rebuild kits are so cheep, they sell a lot of them. Likewise the core business for strange and Moser and col is an aftermarket keeping peoples work horse trucks going, not racers like me and Perry that is an add on. People over here forget just how cheap petrol is in the US the 351C ford engine was designed for delivery trucks (3 to 7 ton range) but they ended up in loads of ford cars.
best regards
Mike

Eliot · Post by **Eliot** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:15 pm

ChrisJC wrote:Do people ever do anything radical like get the axle of a 7 tonne truck and make that narrower? I would think going totally overboard would eliminate this kind of issue.

Impressive twist though on those spines!

Chris.

I refer you to my post on the 1st page about ford 9".

What's pretty telling - is how meaty that shaft was when it was ford thickness, before it was machined down to fit your mgb.

Its like the output shaft on a TH350/700R4 compared to a TH400/4L80 - the latter being as thick as your wrist and why TH400's are popular with the aforementioned 9" and a big block.

ChrisJC · Post by **ChrisJC** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:37 pm

Eliot wrote:
I refer you to my post on the 1st page about ford 9".

My ignorance. I presumed a Ford 9" was some weedy axle from a Ford 105E or something that happened to fit big wheels.

Chris.

mgbv8 · Post by **mgbv8** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:24 pm

Eliot wrote:
ChrisJC wrote:Do people ever do anything radical like get the axle of a 7 tonne truck and make that narrower? I would think going totally overboard would eliminate this kind of issue.

Impressive twist though on those spines!

Chris.
I refer you to my post on the 1st page about ford 9".

What's pretty telling - is how meaty that shaft was when it was ford thickness, before it was machined down to fit your mgb.

Its like the output shaft on a TH350/700R4 compared to a TH400/4L80 - the latter being as thick as your wrist and why TH400's are popular with the aforementioned 9" and a big block.

Thats why I need more meat on my Shaft

kiwicar · Post by **kiwicar** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:36 pm

Hi Chris
next time we are both at Santapod on the same day come over and have a look at the slingshot, I'll pull some covers off to show off if you want. The 9" axle with third member and spool, shafts and disc brakes and oil is not something you can lift single handed. To put it in this time we had three of us as two are needed to hold it at any time and a third to feed it through the chassis. My powerglide has a th400 output shaft, custom input shaft and straight cut gears the whole set up after the engine is "chunky". We can also feed you tea, if Perry remembers to put the kettle into the trailer

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best regards
Mike

mgbv8 · Post by **mgbv8** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:40 pm

Its already in the trailer Mike

kiwicar · Post by **kiwicar** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:59 pm

Hi Perry
It's not you know, it's by the back door of the garage in a box with the coffee!
Best regards
Mike

mgbv8 · Post by **mgbv8** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:30 pm

kiwicar wrote:Hi Perry
It's not you know, it's by the back door of the garage in a box with the coffee!
Best regards
Mike

I'm talking about the spare kettle that you didnt know about Mike?? I have just been and picked it up so I can clean it for the next time out as its gathered some dust now. Just like it does in between your brew at the Pod ??

It doesnt even have a chance to cool down in between MY brews at the Pod

mgbv8 · Post by **mgbv8** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:31 pm

I'm beginning to think that I should ditch the MGB and build myself a Ford TEA Bucket ??

mgbv8 · Post by **mgbv8** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:21 pm

The spare parts collection has now officially started for the Hybrid MGB / Ford 9" rear axle ???