which wideband should i buy

kiwicar · Post by **kiwicar** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:12 pm

Hi
This is a long shot but does anyone know of a lambda sensor and gauge that can be used, and properly calibrated, to work with methanol?
Best regards
Mike

sidecar · Post by **sidecar** » Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:27 pm

kiwicar wrote:Hi
This is a long shot but does anyone know of a lambda sensor and gauge that can be used, and properly calibrated, to work with methanol?
Best regards
Mike

In the back off my mind somewhere I seem to recall that the LC1 can be re-calibrated via its laptop software but don't quote me on that!

kiwicar · Post by **kiwicar** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:32 am

Hi
That should be worth an investigate. . .
Best regards
Mike

DaveEFI · Post by **DaveEFI** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:50 am

kiwicar wrote:Hi
This is a long shot but does anyone know of a lambda sensor and gauge that can be used, and properly calibrated, to work with methanol?
Best regards
Mike

My Tech Edge can, via software. For LNG. LPG, diesel, methanol, ethanol as well as unleaded, according the the menu. Not that I've ever tried it.

stevieturbo · Post by **stevieturbo** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:33 pm

kiwicar wrote:Hi
This is a long shot but does anyone know of a lambda sensor and gauge that can be used, and properly calibrated, to work with methanol?
Best regards
Mike

Haltech sell a methanol specific wideband kit. Pretty sure it is the only one.

http://www.efi101.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4606

DaveEFI · Post by **DaveEFI** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:17 pm

I can't see why you'd do a methanol specific one, since the sensor is the same? So it's only a question of how the electronics interpret the output from that?

stevieturbo · Post by **stevieturbo** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:27 pm

DaveEFI wrote:I can't see why you'd do a methanol specific one, since the sensor is the same? So it's only a question of how the electronics interpret the output from that?

The fact nobody offers a wideband for methanol...means it must not be as simple as that.

The Bosch sensor is apparently not suitable, and even with the NTK sensor, it must be pushing it to the extreme's of it's range.

Obviously that advert is old, but for Haltech to claim they are the only company making a methanol wideband kit....that's a fairly big claim. The market maybe is smaller for methanol I guess, but if it was so easy loads of companies would be doing it, just as the other range of widebands.

stevieturbo · Post by **stevieturbo** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:35 pm

Although reading through the thread on efi101 again...seems some dispute Haltech's claims and as some say, it does just look like NGK's own wideband.

DaveEFI · Post by **DaveEFI** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:25 am

stevieturbo wrote:
DaveEFI wrote:I can't see why you'd do a methanol specific one, since the sensor is the same? So it's only a question of how the electronics interpret the output from that?
The fact nobody offers a wideband for methanol...means it must not be as simple as that.

As I said earlier, my Tech Edge DIY does.

The Bosch sensor is apparently not suitable, and even with the NTK sensor, it must be pushing it to the extreme's of it's range.

As I understand it, the sensor only looks for the proportion of oxygen in the exhaust. Software tells it how much there should be for different fuels and computes an AFR. My Tech Edge unit allows you to use Bosch or NTK sensors.

Obviously that advert is old, but for Haltech to claim they are the only company making a methanol wideband kit....that's a fairly big claim. The market maybe is smaller for methanol I guess, but if it was so easy loads of companies would be doing it, just as the other range of widebands.

I read it as it being the only exclusively methanol one. Whether than makes it somehow better than one which gives a choice of fuels like the Tech Edge, I dunno. You can download the Tech Edge software for free to have a look.