Landy Roll Cages not V8 sorry

kev_the_mole · Post by **kev_the_mole** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:42 pm

Internal? External? Pros and cons? Recommendations etc.

for 2005 Defender 90 TD5

All info greatly accepted. Hopefully will keep girlfriend alive next time she swerves off road to avoid £$%%%ing deer!

Cheers,

Ian

kiwicar · Post by **kiwicar** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:37 am

My understanding always was that strength wise there was little to choose between internal or extrenal, however if it is a full cage infront of the bulkhead then external is better as you don't brain youself on it every time you hit a big bump and it will obviously protect the outer panels which an intermal one won't. They are meant to be a bit easier to fit aswell. If you get one with the bar above the front bulkheadat the base of the windscreen they are meant to be the strongest, though the wipers can be a problem. Much easier to tie the fresh venerson to to get it home without getting the inside all yucky with an external

Is it a station wagon, SWB/LWB, pickup?
Hope the girlfriend is OK, they are not good things to hit, I made a right mess of the wife's vectra a few years ago with one.
Best of luck
Mike

mikeinatruck · Post by **mikeinatruck** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:47 pm

By the sound of your post the Landy took an unplanned off roading excursion?
If it was me I would go for the external option, looks good and gives the body a lot of protection and you dont lose any internal space, also handy if your off roading as you can lean on trees...

Numerous options depending on your budget.
www.whitbread-offroad.co.uk
www.northoffroad.co.uk
www.protectionandperformance.co.uk

kev_the_mole · Post by **kev_the_mole** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:29 pm

Mike,

it's a SWB and she's OK. There was no damage to her or (thank God) the car but want to make sure if she does swerve to miss something small and cuddly she's still as OK as she could be

Training her not to swerve for fluffy bunnies unfortunately not an option. It's a girl thang!

Cheers,

Ian

kiwicar · Post by **kiwicar** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:52 am

Good news all is OK
If its a SWB there are alot of kits for external cages so I would definatly go that route. I would have one with a diagonal behind the seats (they normally have this hoop internally with the roof pannel sandwiched between the internal and external parts of the cage) as the Landy is still a heavy beast! the swerving to avoid small fury animals is a big problem

my nephew has been off work for 18 months after missing a fox and hittind an armco instead, he detached three ribs which have not re- attached and probably never will, and wrecked tendons all up his back and neck, it has wrecked his life all for a furry that would have probably got out of his way any way (if he had remained in control of the car).
I'm sorry furrys and body work can be replaced.
all the best
Mike

kiwicar · Post by **kiwicar** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:27 pm

surly you need a chevy V8 to drop in the front of that landy?

Mike

kev_the_mole · Post by **kev_the_mole** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:01 pm

Mike,

we've got one car in the family that struggles to make 12mpg in urban driving. I can't afford two

Sorry to hear about your nephew though.

I suppose the safest thing is to just plough on but that has its problems too. One of my in-laws was toe-ing his 3-litre Capri down a well known local deer run a few years back and one jumped out in front of him. No time to think even! The windscreen burst, he was temporarily blinded and managed to pull up from 70+ without taking the car off the road. He sat there in shock on an adrenaline high wondering if it was just deer blood or had he p*ssed himself and he started to notice a high pitched keening behind him. Clearing his eyes and turning round expecting to find an injured deer in the back seat he remembered that couldn't be possible as him and a mate had two girls in the back seat they'd been out with that night. As his eyesight cleared and his ears came back on-line the noise became apparent; the two girls were in hysterics and shrieking because one minute they were chatting and the next they were covered in both intestines and the contents of the deer. The deer was never discovered the car was a write off both from frontal damage and it needed a complete new interior. They were all right except for a few minor cuts from the safety glass, a lot of bruising and a smell that stuck with them for the next two weeks. He never saw the girls again! The fickleness of women!

kiwicar · Post by **kiwicar** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:10 pm

can I sugest one of those american V8 diesels that are sold to the rangerover boys, add big wheels and some gearing up (ie lots) and run the thing on bio deisel, loads of links off google including the one below.
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html
depending on the process you use you also get soap as a by-product, I'm not quite sure why but this really appeals to me!

all the best
Mike