Installing Serpentine front cover

adamnreeves · Post by **adamnreeves** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:08 am

Okay,

I have my serptine front cover, thanks Geoff. I noted that the oil pickup is on the front cover. I have one of the latest 46D blocks but it still has the place for the oil pickup cast in the block. I am assuming that this is okay. I do not need to blank off.

I bought a baffled sump one of those earlier Mulfab ones which came with an oil pickup, I am hoping that the later oilpick that travels long the bottom of the block and atached to Bearing 4 aligns with he sump still.

Regarding installing the cover, which has the front crank oil seal attached, do I need to obtain the service tool to install the cover. I have never installed a front cover before, any gothas, tips. etc would be welcomed.

- Adam

russell_ram · Post by **russell_ram** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:43 pm

Adam,

For your serp cover you must use the pick-up in the bottom of the front cover. The block pick-up point is/was still machined into the block for service and for some odd engine build configurations (Morgan etc). No need to blank of this feed, your serp front cover blocks the hole on the front face of block.

Only you can tell if your new sump will work with the std front cover mounted pick-up tube!

All RV8 front covers are dowelled onto the block front face - no need for any installation tools. Obviously use a new paper gasket, they have a small bead of 'rubber' moulded on them to aid sealing - no further sealant should be required.

Russ

adamnreeves · Post by **adamnreeves** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:16 pm

Ah, okay understand. I think with the oil strainer I am going to work out if I install the one I got where it lies in space X,Y,Z. and then work out the X,Y,Z of a standard series II one!

I have a complete engine gasket kit, I shall check the gasket looks okay.

Thanks for the advice.

russell_ram wrote:Adam,

For your serp cover you must use the pick-up in the bottom of the front cover. The block pick-up point is/was still machined into the block for service and for some odd engine build configurations (Morgan etc). No need to blank of this feed, your serp front cover blocks the hole on the front face of block.

Only you can tell if your new sump will work with the std front cover mounted pick-up tube!

All RV8 front covers are dowelled onto the block front face - no need for any installation tools. Obviously use a new paper gasket, they have a small bead of 'rubber' moulded on them to aid sealing - no further sealant should be required.

Russ

adamnreeves · Post by **adamnreeves** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:37 pm

I forgot to ask. How do you prime the oil pump with Serpentine, where does the vaseline go!

Post by **katanaman** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 5:22 pm

you dont it's a better pump and doesnt need it so far as I am aware

adamnreeves · Post by **adamnreeves** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 5:34 pm

Right. I presume when engine is built then turning over on the starter motor with spark plugs removed for a few seconds before going for the big start should do it then.

katanaman wrote:you dont it's a better pump and doesnt need it so far as I am aware

pitsnow · Post by **pitsnow** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:22 am

Hi Adam

Have you taken some photos of your installation?
I have a dry sump in my rush but am thinking of swaping it for a serp front and baffled sump like yours as the dry sum set-up is a pain due to lack of space.
How does your sump look inside? Is it modified (in height) for the westy?

Cheers Peter

adamnreeves · Post by **adamnreeves** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:52 am

Pitsnow,

The sump is modified quite a bit. It has trap doors and baffles. I bought it from Ebay and after some reasearch I believe it to be an early mulfab type. It does not have a bulge toward the back of the pan, it is completely level to provide better ground clearance. I do not have a photo or measurements as it is off getting powder coated. I have been waiting for 3 weeks for it to come back but I cannot complain, a friend of my son's is getting done for nothing. Apparently the powder coater is top notch and they use nylon in the process and it does not chip.

You may want to look at mulfab here http://www.mulfab.co.uk/

pitsnow wrote:Hi Adam

Have you taken some photos of your installation?
I have a dry sump in my rush but am thinking of swaping it for a serp front and baffled sump like yours as the dry sum set-up is a pain due to lack of space.
How does your sump look inside? Is it modified (in height) for the westy?

Cheers Peter

adamnreeves · Post by **adamnreeves** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:51 pm

The front timing cover gasket that came in my engine gasket kit which I thought was OEM does not have any rubber, it is just paper. I guess I need to get some gasket dressing, any recommendations?

russell_ram wrote:Adam,

For your serp cover you must use the pick-up in the bottom of the front cover. The block pick-up point is/was still machined into the block for service and for some odd engine build configurations (Morgan etc). No need to blank of this feed, your serp front cover blocks the hole on the front face of block.

Only you can tell if your new sump will work with the std front cover mounted pick-up tube!

All RV8 front covers are dowelled onto the block front face - no need for any installation tools. Obviously use a new paper gasket, they have a small bead of 'rubber' moulded on them to aid sealing - no further sealant should be required.

Russ

Post by **katanaman** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:01 am

blue hylomar is what I always use there

adamnreeves · Post by **adamnreeves** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:39 am

Thanks mate, I suspected as much, I have heard of that. The landrover manual say hylosil 101 or 106, which I have never heard of and cannot find.

On the subject of subsitiutes, the manual says for the front crank seal I must use Castrol Retinax LX grease! I presume this is just a high load grease I was thinking I could use wheel bearing grease?

katanaman wrote:blue hylomar is what I always use there

Post by **katanaman** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:11 pm

101 106 sounds like a loctite number. Personally I have ever used grease on he oil seal.

v8alex · Post by **v8alex** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:07 pm

You can get Hylosil 101 - I called Hylomar on 01942 617000 and spoke to their tech department. They're a really helpful bunch and know about all the identification codes. They only tend to sell in bulk though - typically packs of 12, but they pointed me in the direction of some local stockists who sold me a single tube.

Alex

adamnreeves · Post by **adamnreeves** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:22 am

Thanks for the info, I shall give them a call to see if there are any local motor factors that may stock it. Cheers.

v8alex wrote:You can get Hylosil 101 - I called Hylomar on 01942 617000 and spoke to their tech department. They're a really helpful bunch and know about all the identification codes. They only tend to sell in bulk though - typically packs of 12, but they pointed me in the direction of some local stockists who sold me a single tube.

Alex

r2d2hp · Post by **r2d2hp** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:53 am

Hi Adam,

Is the Peter Mulbury the chap that used to build racing cars near Cranford - West London called Abraxus Racing. If it is I bought my LSD for my Capri axle from him back in the mid 80's.
Really nice guy, still have his business card from back then.
If it is the same guy give him my regards even though he probably wont remember me.

regards Reg