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Cheers Mike, I'll check that its setup at 108 degrees. (I bet that's the straight up timing)seight wrote:MC1 needs to be 108 degrees. That's what V8D told me a few years back.
Mike
I am the Rob Robertson from v8 racing that works with v8d, and will be a joint partnership soon things will come clearer in a month or so.sidecar wrote:Basically a late delivery of it and three of us had taken a day off work as we were expecting the engine. My mate phoned up V8 Dev, he was told to phone the courier himself, not good customer service!POAH wrote:what happened with the engine?
Anyway he phoned up the courier who said that they would not deliver it until V8 Dev had paid their bills! My mate then phoned V8 who then said that he should have not been told that!At one point someone got 'snotty' and said well you can have your money back and we will keep the engine!
The sale of the short engine was a private deal between Rob and my mate but his only contact was through V8 Dev's number and it was due to V8 Dev's late payment of money owed which caused the delay in the arrival of it so from our point of view the two are connected.
My mate also bought the camshaft and a load of other stuff of V8 Dev that must have amounted to a few hundred quid on top of the price of the short engine.
Anyway the short engine does seem to be in decent nick and the price was good so at least that's OK.
Hi Rob,v8rob wrote:I am the Rob Robertson from v8 racing that works with v8d, and will be a joint partnership soon things will come clearer in a month or so.sidecar wrote:Basically a late delivery of it and three of us had taken a day off work as we were expecting the engine. My mate phoned up V8 Dev, he was told to phone the courier himself, not good customer service!POAH wrote:what happened with the engine?
Anyway he phoned up the courier who said that they would not deliver it until V8 Dev had paid their bills! My mate then phoned V8 who then said that he should have not been told that!
The sale of the short engine was a private deal between Rob and my mate but his only contact was through V8 Dev's number and it was due to V8 Dev's late payment of money owed which caused the delay in the arrival of it so from our point of view the two are connected.
My mate also bought the camshaft and a load of other stuff of V8 Dev that must have amounted to a few hundred quid on top of the price of the short engine.
Anyway the short engine does seem to be in decent nick and the price was good so at least that's OK.
I am very sorry that alan feels the way he does, i have in no way taken any offence to alan, after the amount i of time i have spent on the phone to him and his friends finding him a camshaft i thought we where freinds! and i really hope he can feel free to contact me for information and or knowledge, The paying our bills to the courier is between us and the courier as i said to alan and yes i was a bit/very anoyed that it was mentioned to alan in the way it was, and as he said his engine was held to ransom!!, I am not prepared to discuss the reasons why we didnt pay there bill but all i will say is it is not because of funds.
Ok so it was me that got snotty on the phone and offered alan all his money back, the reason for this was under the situation we where, alan and i dont blame him AT ALL just wanted to know if he would have his engine tomorow, to my response was sorry alan i really cant answer that, sorry i cant guarantee it but it should be, he asked the same question maybe 7 times in the same conversation, to my reply, alan i am really really sorry i just gaurantee it, do you want your money back?
Seriously what else could i have done? i have built him a nice engine at a very good price.
I have been building these engines for well over 20 years now and want be doing it for another 20 years to come, but when things like this are mentioned people can get the wrong end of the stick.
Regards Rob
(Should we run it retarded at all as we are able to due to the fact that we are running a Cloyes timing chain and sprocket setup?)Hi perry i really would love to spend a few hours a night on here to help but i really just dont have the time at the moment, i have seen lots of your vids on utube, very nice and i do have a soft spot for mgb's, my dad had one as a rallycross car with a big wade blower on it, 1979 he built it, i was 7 years old at this time, very little silencers etc... i allways thought the car was a monster!, it ended up being the first v8 i built at the age of 12, anyway things are changing at v8d at the moment hopefully for the better!, come and talk to me in a few months when things are all sorted.mgbv8 wrote:Well said Rob!!
I'm sure you coming on here will be a bonus for the forum. Thanks for the heads up on the V8D situation. I've had 2 engines now from V8D, albeit via a 3rd party for strange reasons and ebay
The first one took a shed load of abuse before letting go. The new one is a top hat linered block that is just about to be fitted for test runs early next year. And all the failures were due to head gaskets letting go and metling stuff.
I was thinking of talking to V8D about some sponsorship for my drag car.
What do you think??
Regards
Perry
Hi petesidecar wrote:Hi Rob,v8rob wrote:I am the Rob Robertson from v8 racing that works with v8d, and will be a joint partnership soon things will come clearer in a month or so.sidecar wrote: Basically a late delivery of it and three of us had taken a day off work as we were expecting the engine. My mate phoned up V8 Dev, he was told to phone the courier himself, not good customer service!
Anyway he phoned up the courier who said that they would not deliver it until V8 Dev had paid their bills! My mate then phoned V8 who then said that he should have not been told that!
The sale of the short engine was a private deal between Rob and my mate but his only contact was through V8 Dev's number and it was due to V8 Dev's late payment of money owed which caused the delay in the arrival of it so from our point of view the two are connected.
My mate also bought the camshaft and a load of other stuff of V8 Dev that must have amounted to a few hundred quid on top of the price of the short engine.
Anyway the short engine does seem to be in decent nick and the price was good so at least that's OK.
I am very sorry that alan feels the way he does, i have in no way taken any offence to alan, after the amount i of time i have spent on the phone to him and his friends finding him a camshaft i thought we where freinds! and i really hope he can feel free to contact me for information and or knowledge, The paying our bills to the courier is between us and the courier as i said to alan and yes i was a bit/very anoyed that it was mentioned to alan in the way it was, and as he said his engine was held to ransom!!, I am not prepared to discuss the reasons why we didnt pay there bill but all i will say is it is not because of funds.
Ok so it was me that got snotty on the phone and offered alan all his money back, the reason for this was under the situation we where, alan and i dont blame him AT ALL just wanted to know if he would have his engine tomorow, to my response was sorry alan i really cant answer that, sorry i cant guarantee it but it should be, he asked the same question maybe 7 times in the same conversation, to my reply, alan i am really really sorry i just gaurantee it, do you want your money back?
Seriously what else could i have done? i have built him a nice engine at a very good price.
I have been building these engines for well over 20 years now and want be doing it for another 20 years to come, but when things like this are mentioned people can get the wrong end of the stick.
Regards Rob
I am one of the friends that you mention in your post and yes I agree that you did spend quite a long talking to me and I know to Alan as well. We do both appreciate this. I also agree that the short block that you built for Alan seems to be very good, he and I are pleased with it.
I think that Alan had worked him self up to quite a high level of excitement over finally getting a decent short block so it came a big blow to him to not get it on the day that he thought he would. (I guess like getting your birthday present the day after your birthday!)
Anyway the main thing is that he has now got the block which has allowed us to carry out the first dry build in order to find out what needs to be taken off the heads and adjustable pushrods etc.
I know that all of this will be forgotten the first time Alan drives his Cob with his new engine in it. (His old 3.5 was leaking around 60% on most cylinders on a leak down test!).
Alan is new to V8 engines and does not use this forum, I will pass on your post to him. I think that everything that you have posted up is 'fair enough' so this should be an end this matter as far as we are concerned. (I suspected that you would read and reply to my post, I am sure that no harm has been done to V8 Dev's reputation, probably quite the opposite in fact).
Maybe you can answer my cam timing question.
Other info that you might need to know is that the engine will be running your stage II heads skimmed to give a CR of 10:1. It will be running an Eddy manifold and Eddy 500 carb. The valve springs are the ones that you have supplied, we will be running Crane high rev lifters, adjustable pushrods with the Chevy ball ends fitted. We will set the preload to around 25 thou. We will run the ignition around 14 static, 32 all in at 2700-3000 RPM.
The rest of the engine will be standard so I guess it won't be revved over 6k RPM.
Cheers,
Pete
Sorry i didnt mean to scare you, but allways worth checking, 1mm 40 thou should be plenty of clearence, the pistons are cast so wont expand, yes you can get cutters to do the pistons, i think summit racing sell themsidecar wrote:Hi Rob,
Thanks for the reply, no hard feelings at all!
I must admit I did not think that the cam had enough lift to cause concern, but now I am concerned!
I'll check for piston clearance using checker springs and a couple of lifters that have been filled up with wax or glue. Do you reckon that 2mm clearance should be considered the minimum amount?
I know that someone made a sort of piston fly cutting tool using Chevy valves that were fitted to the heads the spun with a drill whilst being pushed against the piston, I could trying doing something similar.
Ho hum, better to get it right now before we fire the lump up and bend the valves at high revs!
Cheers,
Pete
v8rob wrote: Sorry i didnt mean to scare you, but allways worth checking, 1mm 40 thou should be plenty of clearence, the pistons are cast so wont expand, yes you can get cutters to do the pistons, i think summit racing sell them
