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gelmonkey · Post by **gelmonkey** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:18 pm

Hi All
Just want a bit of a rant really.
Had to fill one of the works vans up this morning before going to work and it cost me £102.20!!!!!!!!
When I bought this van 5 years ago I struggled to get £65 in it.
The gas station up the road has put it's prices up 4 times this week to a whopping £138.9 per litre for diesel,on Tuesday it was £132.9pl.
I use a small service station nothing like the size of Texaco at the top of the road and they sell diesel at £131.9.
How can a small station like this sell fuel 7p a liter cheaper? They will always have my custom for as long as they can survive.

JUST HOW MUCH MORE ARE WE GOING TO BE SHAFTED FOR FUEL TO GO TO WORK TO EARN A BLOODY LIVING.

Sorry, moan over I'll get my coat and bugger off now.

P

bones · Post by **bones** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:35 pm

it has gone up alot. Im just glad i dont pay the fuel in my truck, same amount of miles every week, fuel has gone from £1200 to £1480 aweek. Transport is going to suffer big time

rich

mx5v8 · Post by **mx5v8** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:25 am

It was brought home to me just how expensive fuel now is when I took a 5ltr can in for some petrol, £7.36 to fill it to the brim even cutting the lawn is getting expensive

ppyvabw · Post by **ppyvabw** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:54 am

Well it occurred to me the other day that when I started driving ten years ago at 18 you could still get petrol around 75p a litre and the other day the BBC news website said it had averaged £1.30. Not far off having doubled!! And seeing how it was only 2 or 3 years ago it hit the pound mark for the first time, it won't be long until it actually has.

JJMclure · Post by **JJMclure** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:35 am

just wait til saudi arabia kick off and join egypt, libya and yemens 'party' then we'll be getting it for £2 a litre!!!

gelmonkey · Post by **gelmonkey** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:48 pm

Hi All
Without question we all have to make our money stretch that bit further these days and yesterday I felt that I had been completely and utterly robbed even though it was at the little fuel station and not the Texaco place.
Last year when I was in America with Muscle Manta we were paying $2.88 for a gallon and even though it obviously is a US gallon the cost
was sensible and deemed to be a must have rather than a luxury item.
£2 a litre will come sooner rather than later I'm sure and that royally sucks.
Before I have earnt a penny on any given day I along with countless others end up paying 6 amounts of tax before I can start to earn for myself.
Just like all those who have to do VAT returns and the like we ultimately all work for the government as unpaid tax collectors and bent politician pocket liners.
It's about time they followed a mantra something along the lines of...
Under promise and then over perform.... and then we would not have much to complain about as they would be in touch with real people and real life situations.
Mr C 's Big Society ?
Big Rip Off if you ask me.

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ppyvabw · Post by **ppyvabw** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:07 pm

gelmonkey wrote:
r C 's Big Society ?
Big Rip Off if you ask me.

It ain't exactly Mr C's fault yet - he's only been in 10 months.

Prices rocketed under the previous shower of s**te for 13 years. At least this lot are making noises about a 'stabiliser' where if the oil price goes up they reduce the tax to keep the price more constant or fuel tax relief for people in rural areas. Whether that happens remains to be seen but the last lot just piled on the tax on top of the oil price hikes to price every poor bugger off the road.

gelmonkey · Post by **gelmonkey** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:43 pm

ppyvabw wrote:
gelmonkey wrote:
r C 's Big Society ?
Big Rip Off if you ask me.

It ain't exactly Mr C's fault yet - he's only been in 10 months.

Prices rocketed under the previous shower of s**te for 13 years. At least this lot are making noises about a 'stabiliser' where if the oil price goes up they reduce the tax to keep the price more constant or fuel tax relief for people in rural areas. Whether that happens remains to be seen but the last lot just piled on the tax on top of the oil price hikes to price every poor bugger off the road.

I do agree with you but lets face it it does'nt matter who is in power it will always be said that the situation was inherited from the last lot.
I struggle to find trust with any of them after the expenses scandal and if there was a general election tomorrow I could not vote hand on heart and say XYor Z could do a better job.
Anyway after all is said and done all I wanted was a bit of a rant and did not really want to get into a political debate even though I started it so I will shut up now and get on with life and stop moaning

cheers
P

mgbv8 · Post by **mgbv8** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:48 pm

This sounds like the debate between JC and 2 jags on Top Gear ??

JC. · Post by **JC.** » Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:04 pm

Someone suggested to me that the cause of the problem was getting rid of saddam hussein.
Apparently, he wouldn't play ball with the rest of the worlds oil suppliers in having fixed prices and therefore made them keep prices down?

Whether there's an element of truth in that, I've no idea!

unstable load · Post by **unstable load** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:31 am

There may well be something in that, but remember, your local fuel price is governed mostly by the taxes levied on the fuel.

Here in South Africa for example, taxes account for around 30% of the price and we are currently at 0.82 GBP/l for 95 octane unleaded at the coast. Diesel is a bit less at 0.77GBP/l.
In July 2008 we hit 0.93/l and that is not too far away for us again.

kiwicar · Post by **kiwicar** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:46 am

Hi
Get used to this commodity price inflation across the board over the next few years, You keep hearing of "quantitive easing" in the news? What it is is printing money, all the western economic region countries have been doing it for a few years now, the net result is the currency is devalued against commodities, oil, food, raw materials. The reason the dollar, the euro and the pound all seem stable is that all are printing money at about the same rate so against each other they don't de-value. Watch the values of the doller/ euro/ pound against a curency where they are doing it less, like the Australian/ Newzeland Dollar for a while and see what is really happening! oil prices are just one aspect, imported food is another one to watch. And just to chear you all up, those floods in Australia have wiped out the grain harvest for that region for this year, they will be importing more grain this year, not exporting as they would normally, and doing it with a nice strong currency that has not been "quantitivly eased".
Ever heard of the "south sea bubble"? unfortunatly none of the muppets that run western economys seem to have!
Happy days
Mike

Cavman · Post by **Cavman** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:56 am

What really P's me off is that it's all blamed on "rising oil prices", but the oil companies still manage to make something like £300m a quarter. £300M every 3 months!!

If they were made to quell their profits and tax brought down to a reasonable level then we could have that 80-90p/l back again. Obviously I'm aware that'll never happen, but wouldn't it be nice eh?! Cost me over £50 this morning to fill my cav, and it wasn't even fully empty, first time that's ever happened.

lowest I remember actually paying myself is 68.9p. about 13 years ago.

right, now that's off my chest I'd better get back to work!

JC. · Post by **JC.** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:58 am

The issue that has long narked me is the VAT.

It's a given that the cost of a litre of fuel is made up mostly of duty. Then they add the VAT on top of that. Effectively, you're paying a tax on tax you've already paid!!

You hear all this nonsense on the news about our country being in debt and that the gvt have to do this that and the other to preserve our credit rating. Well, why doesn't Mr. Cameran tell these creditors to sod off. What are they going to do? Reposess Wales?

Ian Anderson · Post by **Ian Anderson** » Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:40 pm

Ok one for you guys to mull over

The UK belongs to the EC

Inside the EC there is free movement of goods

So
Find where the price of fuel is cheapest in the EC

Buy a tanker and tow it back.

The UK cannot charge VAT or Duty on it as it is already prepaid within the EC

I'm actually surprised that people have not started doing it already!

Only problem is that if it comes in and gets upt into a large tank and people buy it it becomes a commercial transaction. But should 50 people gather together and each buy 400 litres which is then stored in bulk and they draw down their prepaid fuel it has to work!

Berhaps Mr Monkey should be building a Fiberglass Fuel barge to float the "contraband" across the water

Ian