Which axle???

[stevieturbo]

You are complicating a very simple process.

Removing the bearing section makes NO difference to driving flange placement, c-clips or not.

Making brackets to suit abc calipers is easy. Just get some 8mm plate steel, and cut it. ( Make wood templates first )

Hole saw, angle grinder, whatever. Or wood then get Ralph to cut it out.

Either way wont cost much money, and will be easier than trying to make something that doesnt fit, fit.
Then offset the caliper with spacers to suit the discs, if any are needed at all.
I just made up custom discs/bells using cheap wilwood stuff to suit.

The only aspect of shortening that will cost some money, is having those shafts either re-splined, or new shafts made.

Pretty sure my shafts ended up around 29.25" each from face of flange to end of spline.

What length shaft do you need ?

[Coops]

OH what width was your axle to start with then mate?,
my stock shafts are 29 1/8" face to face, which aint far off your shafts you had made,
and looking at my shafts that came out they cant be resplined,

[stevieturbo]

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[Coops]

if we cut the tube will do it in the center of the spring platform bracket so its supported either side too,
best get looking for some shafts then

[stevieturbo]

OH what width was your axle to start with then mate?,
my stock shafts are 29 1/8" face to face, which aint far off your shafts you had made,
and looking at my shafts that came out they cant be resplined,

Pretty sure it was 59" ( actually found the old bit of paper )

Price Moser shafts off Hauser. Or even Summit might sell some custom shafts cheap.

But I'm 99% sure mine were around £250, probably plus VAT for a pair.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MSR-A28CST/

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MSR-C28CST/


Shorten the axle, new shafts ( in 4x108 as required ) so minimal messing about.

[stevieturbo]

if we cut the tube will do it in the center of the spring platform bracket so its supported either side too,
best get looking for some shafts then

Just cut it and sleeve it like I did.

The stepped sleeve was some 50mm into each side of the hollow shaft, and a good "beat with a hammer" tight fit.

Then check all round with a straight edge before welding to make sure it was still true.

Not perfect method by any means, but seems to have worked fine for me.

Dont really think it will matter where you cut it, as long as its welded together properly. Just cut it somewhere with plenty of material either side to check alignment with a straight edge.

If going custom.

Removing the c-clip retention gives you a little more to play with in terms of measurements.
If they are too long, just cut the shaft down a bit, which is what I did. With the c-clips still in place, you wont have that same room to play, although you could opt for short, and make up the wheel position with spacers if needed. Or the disc bell if going custom alloy bells.

Although the amount of shafts etc Ive been through, I make the wheel position with spacers and quite a thick bell

[Coops]

do they come with the c clip grooves in stevie?
or do you have to ask for them?
as cant see any grooves in the picture

[stevieturbo]

do they come with the c clip grooves in stevie?
or do you have to ask for them?
as cant see any grooves in the picture

They are custom made to whatever you want. Obviously sticking with the c-clips will be cheaper, as no need to by c-clip elims.
So would be the easiest option for now.

If the shafts I have, have enough splines left, they could maybe be shortened and remachined for clips, although they have c-clip elims already on them.

But the bolt pattern will be wrong for you, and likely awkward to get a 4 stud from them.


The most sensible option will be to have shafts custom made in the length you need, PCD you need etc. It's the only real cost you'll need to spend really.

The rest will be some DIY fabrication and welding.

[Coops]

other option at a later date is find some where that sells the 9" ends and get them welded onto the tubes,
no need for c clips or elims then either.

[stevieturbo]

other option at a later date is find some where that sells the 9" ends and get them welded onto the tubes,
no need for c clips or elims then either.

spending money where it isnt needed.

More cutting, welding, and they WILL need done by a professional to ensure alignment. ie, more money

But I assume the 9" ends will require custom bearings of some sort for the shafts ? Or how are the axles retained with these ?

And they may also then require different shafts with a larger diameter at the bearing end.


Decide where you are going now, as wanting to change spec along the way, will cost lots of money.

Moser, Strange and others do make custom axles ( shafts )

Ive twisted a few Mosers, so clearly they arent the best. The current Mark Williams are working great for me. But these were around £1200 all in, still using OE 8.8" housing ends.

C-clip elim design seems specific to shaft brand too.

But in general, Moser seem to be cheapest.

Is yours 28 or 31 spline ?

[Coops]

mine are 28 spline mate,

[stevieturbo]

So again...cheapest option.

DIY shorten axle.

new Moser c-clip shafts in 28spline, and re-use all existing parts.

Make DIY brake brackets to suit.

Now....if the Traction Lok diff is available in 31spline...is it just a case of changing the spider gears to 31spline to upgrade ?

If so, I would do that and get new 31 spline shafts.

Even if it means you'll never buy my 28spline torsen diff lol.

And if retaining the std diff...is a better diff pin available ? bound to be. All worthwhile options I'd think, and shouldnt cost much.


Although not sure if 31 spline shafts use the same outer bearing size as the 28's

I know my first 28spline shafts had small bearings. 2nd set had larger bearings, as did the 31 splines. But I think the small versions are for OE fitment. Larger were only for C-clip elims.

[Coops]

ARRC want around £294.78 ~+vat for strange Half shafts

[stevieturbo]

Might be the price of them now.

Is that a drop in replacement with c-clips, and choice of studs ?

Strange are likely better than the Mosers.


But I'd check diff options. If you can easily and cheaply upgrade to 31 spline, may as well do so so you have the biggest shafts from the start.

full TL is

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/FMS-M-4204-F318C/

I'm using

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/FMS-M-4204-T31/


or thats the 28spline H have that I dont use anymore

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/FMS-M-4204-T28/


Likely upgrade to 31 wont be cheap. Cheapest will be stick with the 28. I ran my 10.04 at 148mph on the smaller 28 spline shafts with no problems.
Oddly the first ones I twisted were the heavier 31 spline shafts !!

[Coops]

personally mate i think the 28 splines are going to be more than enough for what i need,
will try and look into getting some shafts priced up,
have asked on the mustang forums what lengths factory shafts come in,
that way i may be able to get a set from another year etc for now to get us up and running, and can buy some better ones after christmas,