Lucas hotwire and Megasquirt

General Chat About Exhaust, Cylinder Heads, Fuel Systems And Intake

Moderator: phpBB2 - Administrators

Post Reply
DaveEFI
Gold Member
Gold Member
Posts: 4603
Joined: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:27 pm
Location: SW London, UK

Lucas hotwire and Megasquirt

Post by DaveEFI »

I'm running an MS2 V3 on an originally flapper injection 3.5 RV8, at the moment MAP only. I picked up a hotwire AFM from a 3.9 and wondered if if would be suitable to use for MAF or combined MAF/MAP system? And is it worth the effort?


Dave
London SW
Rover SD1 VDP EFI
MegaSquirt2 V3
EDIS8
Tech Edge 2Y
katanaman
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 3081
Joined: Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:29 pm
Location: Edinburgh
Contact:

Post by katanaman »

Not worth the effort, stick with Map
DaveEFI
Gold Member
Gold Member
Posts: 4603
Joined: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:27 pm
Location: SW London, UK

Post by DaveEFI »

katanaman wrote:Not worth the effort, stick with Map
Interesting. There appear to be opposing views here. ;-)
It's a road car and I'm interested in economy as well as performance.
I've got the second bit OK...
Dave
London SW
Rover SD1 VDP EFI
MegaSquirt2 V3
EDIS8
Tech Edge 2Y
kiwicar
Forum Contributor
Forum Contributor
Posts: 5461
Joined: Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:00 pm
Location: Milton Keynes

Post by kiwicar »

From all I've understood about EFI, the reason for using a AFM system is that it is resilient to production variations, stick it on any engine and for a given flow through it at X revs it gives you a certain air fuel ratio regardless. So for production engines it is basically fit it on the line, tweek the idle so it runs and it should be consistant, rather than accurate. A Map based system requires a certain amount of tuning and setting up, but having said that it can be tuned far more accuratly to an engine over a wider variation of conditions (depending on sensors) and rather than giving a single air fuel ratio at a given engine speed then modifying it for throttle position etc, it can give several AFRs based on throttle position, revs and manifold depression. Also manifold depression against throttle position is a much better measure of load on the engine than air mass against throttle position as it is indinendent of instantaneous volumetric eficiency. Also you don't have the restriction in the inlet.
Best regards
Mike
poppet valves rule!
User avatar
daxtojeiro
Forum Sponsor
Forum Sponsor
Posts: 330
Joined: Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:10 am
Location: Norwich UK
Contact:

Re: Lucas hotwire and Megasquirt

Post by daxtojeiro »

DaveEFI wrote:I'm running an MS2 V3 on an originally flapper injection 3.5 RV8, at the moment MAP only. I picked up a hotwire AFM from a 3.9 and wondered if if would be suitable to use for MAF or combined MAF/MAP system? And is it worth the effort?
It can be done using the extra code in MS2. I have done it for a few engines that needed better control than TPS can give, but that had no plenum (2 stroke bike engines, etc) .

Personally I wouldn't think you will gain in economy if thats your worry, but its worth it if you want to have a play with the setup, if you do it let me know how it goes as I have a guy who also wants to use MAF on an RV8,

Phil
Image


http://www.extraefi.co.uk/cobra/accobra.htm SuperCharged 5325cc V8 Cobra Replica (Full sequential Fuel and Ignition MS3 management)
DaveEFI
Gold Member
Gold Member
Posts: 4603
Joined: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:27 pm
Location: SW London, UK

Re: Lucas hotwire and Megasquirt

Post by DaveEFI »

daxtojeiro wrote:
DaveEFI wrote:I'm running an MS2 V3 on an originally flapper injection 3.5 RV8, at the moment MAP only. I picked up a hotwire AFM from a 3.9 and wondered if if would be suitable to use for MAF or combined MAF/MAP system? And is it worth the effort?
It can be done using the extra code in MS2. I have done it for a few engines that needed better control than TPS can give, but that had no plenum (2 stroke bike engines, etc) .

Personally I wouldn't think you will gain in economy if thats your worry, but its worth it if you want to have a play with the setup, if you do it let me know how it goes as I have a guy who also wants to use MAF on an RV8,

Phil
Thanks Phil. Coming from the horses mouth says I shouldn't bother. ;-)
Dave
London SW
Rover SD1 VDP EFI
MegaSquirt2 V3
EDIS8
Tech Edge 2Y
Post Reply

Return to “Exhaust, Cylinder Heads, Fuel And Intake Area”