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Fuel flow line Q: Facet Red Top unions/pipe type for Holley

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Sorry if this has been asked before.....

Got myself a Facet Red Top Fuel Pump for the Capri V8. (Rover SD1 & Holley 4-barrel on an Offenhauser).
Arrived with the pump & instructions. Already have a Filterking & Fuel Cat to go on the fuel line.

Question:
My assumed (uneducated in V8's) Fuel flow path will be: Tank - Lucas filter - Facet Red Top - Fuel Cat - Filterking - Holley.
Would like to fit braided performance hose & decent fittings but need to know what diameter I need to get for each relevant part of the sequence.

1st Q: Have I got the correct items in line?

2nd Q:Various websites quote 8mm or 10mm etc pipes & unions.
Whats the best diameter unions/pipe to fit?

3rd Q: Who is the best priced supplier to go to for Facet unions & braided fuel pipe? (being new to the British V8 scene, wary of overpriced suppliers - had a Dodge Charger 440 R/T & got stung by the USA suppliers!)

Car will be used on a 'FUN' basis so fuel economy isnt an issue :lol: :lol: :lol:


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I would run a flex line to the filter, then a aluminium line through the rest of the components and mount them to the chassis, then a flex pipe from the regulator to the carb. Flowrech used to be the cheapest and if you give them vauge discriptions they can usually sus out what you need, quick delivery to. The other place is in Houndslow, forget the name, it may ahve neen Think automotive, you need to spend an afternoon at least if you need to go there but also very knowledgeable about fittings.
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1. Yes
2. 8mm will be plenty enough
3. Got my braided lines and fittings off eBay. Usually about £25 for 3metres, and the fittings are about £5 each, or £40-odd if you buy in bulk. There's plenty of suppliers outside of ebay, Earls have been fantastic for me, but you do pay for it!

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I am using copperbrake line ( 8mm )as a sollid fuel line.
Flex lines are just the "Gates " rubber ones.

The problem with the 'el cheapo' braided ones that if there is a leak you won't see where it leaks until your car is on fire.
The 'l cheapo' braided ones don't have reinforcement inside the rubber like the Russel braided hoses have. They will drie out and crack very fast.

My setup:
Gates flex from tank to Facet pump and from pump to solid.
The solid ends in the enginebay at my filterking ( flex conected ) and from the filter to the carb theres flex to.
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Post by chodjinn »

JP the stuff I bought certainly wasn't 'el cheapo' and it does have the reinforced liners IIRC but not quite as good as the russel/aeroquip stuff. I just couldn't justify 500 quif on fuel lines . . . :shock:
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chodjinn wrote:JP the stuff I bought certainly wasn't 'el cheapo' :
Didn't say you had 'L cheapo' ones..... but I know lots of guys who have.
Its pretty common in the bling bling comunitie to buy those few bucks braided fuel lines for the looks not knowing that this is absolutely crap.

I just mensioned this as a warning to Budgie not to save on these braided hoses if he want those otherwise he will be better of with standard Gates ones.

Sorry that I wasn't clear enough.
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Re: Fuel flow line Q: Facet Red Top unions/pipe type for Hol

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BudgieV8 wrote:Sorry if this has been asked before.....

Fuel flow path will be: Tank - Lucas filter - Facet Red Top - Fuel Cat - Filterking - Holley.
Fuel Cat???? :?


Is that one of them magical devices that give you more power and economy from the same gallon of petrol?


:rofl

I wonder if these guys use them? :racing

:ooh Sorry 8-)
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Re: Fuel flow line Q: Facet Red Top unions/pipe type for Hol

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Paul B wrote:
Fuel Cat???? :?

Is that one of them magical devices that give you more power and economy from the same gallon of petrol?

:rofl

I wonder if these guys use them? :racing

:ooh Sorry 8-)
Yepp I do as it an octane booster also, it supose to make 99 octane out of 95. I even went to the dyno with our blown V8 running it on 95 & an intank Fuelcat( 9,5:1cr + 7psi). The dyno guys where thinking that I was using an octane booster :lol: :lol:

Have 4 Capri's running with it while normaly they will ping on 95.
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Dont know how to take the last few replies regarding the FuelCat :? :? :?

I've planned that as its given me no problems with my V6 Capri & V8 Dodge Charger....
- & I want to run the engines I am trusted with as near to design as poss IE: 4*!!! - & DONT want to damage them!!
- potentially the Fuelcat provides 4* running via unleaded cr*p.
- & its a 'given' that UK unleaded is full of rubbish thanks to the t*ss*r government/Tree-hugger pathetic people...

- SO, I do what I can to pollute the planet with my 'Nasty' V6 & V8 Motors in the hope that the good (V8/V6 Powered motors with LESS emissions than your average modern Pouxhall or Ford) will win! - & I Dont damage my precious 1970-1980 V6/V8's!

- check out the emissions for a V8/V6 vs the average poxy 'shopping car' - we win every time!!! LOL!!!
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BudgieV8 wrote:Dont know how to take the last few replies regarding the FuelCat :? :? :?

I've planned that as its given me no problems with my V6 Capri & V8 Dodge Charger....
Shhh, else the major car manufacturers will catch on to them if we're not careful, and then they'll ALL be fitting them to production cars to get more easy power out of them. :D

Almost like alchemy, we can turn 1 star pump pi$$ into 5 star racing fuel, like the good old days :idea:

Sorry, no offence, but have you actually looked at the physics/chemistry involved or read the reports by major motoring organisations?

I'll be happy to be proven wrong and will gladly fit one to my car if anybody can show me real evidence they work.
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I only fit the likes of the Fuel Cat as its meant to help old 4* engines run better on unleaded...
... nothing to do with power/economy.
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Paul B wrote:
BudgieV8 wrote:Dont know how to take the last few replies regarding the FuelCat :? :? :?

I've planned that as its given me no problems with my V6 Capri & V8 Dodge Charger....
Shhh, else the major car manufacturers will catch on to them if we're not careful, and then they'll ALL be fitting them to production cars to get more easy power out of them. :D

Almost like alchemy, we can turn 1 star pump pi$$ into 5 star racing fuel, like the good old days :idea:

Sorry, no offence, but have you actually looked at the physics/chemistry involved or read the reports by major motoring organisations?

I'll be happy to be proven wrong and will gladly fit one to my car if anybody can show me real evidence they work.
Am with you, if they were any use what so ever they would be in every car. Same with these magical magnet things that clamp on the fuel line and produce less pollution.
While your at it fill your engine with Duralube dump it back out and run the engine without oil. Well that's what the advert said on TV and it was fine. Oh wait they actually got caught by the US FTC and got fined along with another fine of $20m to slick 50. Super fuel max (those magnets I was on about) also done. Moral of the story, if it seems too good to be true then it probably is.

Anyway this is getting off topic maybe some one would be brave enough to start a new thread in general??
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