sealed cold air feed air filters

Seight-V8 · Post by **Seight-V8** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:18 pm

Does anyone on here recommend using a cold air feed sealed type air filter....like the pipercross venom???..

I been thinking of for while my engine draws too much warm air from under my small bonnet, temps can get up to 40degc while driving.

Are they worth the cost of £120?...anyone else use one?

think I would need the 100mm air intake one though, not the 75mm.

http://www.thepipercrossshop.co.uk/pipe ... 376025.htm

cheers

scott

Baracus · Post by **Baracus** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:34 pm

Most of them are too small/don't flow enough for a reasonable bhp RV8. I borrowed a mates venom and stuck it on my ~250bhp 3.9 and there was a definate power loss and you could see the restriction in the map sensor readings on the megasquirt datalogs.

I ended up making a diy version using a jetex air filter rated for 275bhp and made a fibreglass box using a big bit of the wifes tupperware as a mould. Intake temps dropped from averaging 40c odd to 15-20c, though how much power that was worth, i've no idea.

richardpope50 · Post by **richardpope50** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:51 am

I thought about that (cold air) too and therefore fitted flared side panels to get the heat out but guess you cannot do that. My flares are about 100mm x 300mm each side.

I also used these two features.

I must admit, I have not checked the inlet air temp but easy to do with laptop when car back on the road in a few weeks time - yahoo!

SuperV8 · Post by **SuperV8** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 11:11 am

Have a play about with an engine calculator,
Using http://hpwizard.com/engine-horsepower-calculator.html
Power went from 196bhp @ 40degC to 210bhp @ 20degC using aproximate figures for a Rover 4L

Tom.

DaveEFI · Post by **DaveEFI** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:33 pm

Remember seeing the 'factory' racing SD1s, where there was a box built round what looked to be the original air filter to bring in cold air past the rad from the front of the car.

The standard injection air filter is mounted low on the nearside, but draws air from within the engine compartment.

jimbob · Post by **jimbob** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:41 am

Hi,

Found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCi2yo4UqPI not saying its 100% but good to watch.

Jim

Seight-V8 · Post by **Seight-V8** » Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:41 pm

hmm interesting, maybe not worth the £120 for a few bhp then....

worth a thought, on the next idea....lol

cheers

scott

SuperV8 · Post by **SuperV8** » Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:22 pm

Can you spin the plenum 180 degs and the extend the filter in front of the rad?
It's always seemed crazy to me the westfield plenum design sucking in all that hot air at the back of the engine!

Tom.

DaveEFI · Post by **DaveEFI** » Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:24 pm

I stuck an ATS in the SD1 air filter housing. Interesting to see what temperatures that can get up to after idling for a while on a hot day. Getting on for 100C. Of course you're unlikely to need full power immediately after that, but even so.