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Jenvey throttle bodies on Rover 4.8

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:03 am
by Cobratone
Finally got round to taking some pictures of my new induction set-up: -

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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:27 am
by topcatcustom
Are they mounted on weber manifolds? They look like webers without the guts too! So any plans to put some filters on the tops or is the engine going to be like a big leaf sucker?!!!!

TC

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:19 am
by unstable load
Sweet setup!!

Wow, I would love to hear the induction roar from that motor.

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:31 pm
by ian.stewart
I WANT THOSE RAM PIPES!!!!! :D :D :D
Those manifolds look like TVR Racecar/JE ones to me, very similar to the ones I use,
I did away with the vacuum lines as mine were only goint to my fuel reg and as its not a rising rate system, they got deleted,
how did you get your coilpacks in there, it took a week of faffing about to get mine to fit, and they are still VERY tight in position,

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 1:21 am
by spend
ian.stewart wrote:I did away with the vacuum lines as mine were only goint to my fuel reg and as its not a rising rate system, they got deleted,
Don't they also act as balance pipes? Mine are all linked to a block which also houses vacuum takeoffs and the idle air valve.

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:18 am
by Cobratone
topcatproduction wrote:Are they mounted on weber manifolds? They look like webers without the guts too! So any plans to put some filters on the tops or is the engine going to be like a big leaf sucker?!!!!

TC
They're mounted on JE manifolds, going to fit some filters but I need to modify my bonnet first to fit them in :oops:

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:20 am
by Cobratone
ian.stewart wrote:I WANT THOSE RAM PIPES!!!!! :D :D :D
Those manifolds look like TVR Racecar/JE ones to me, very similar to the ones I use,
I did away with the vacuum lines as mine were only goint to my fuel reg and as its not a rising rate system, they got deleted,
how did you get your coilpacks in there, it took a week of faffing about to get mine to fit, and they are still VERY tight in position,
The coilpacks took ages to do because I fitted the manifolds first before I realised I could fit the coilpacks in there, then I found out that the vacuum lines were approx 2mm too low so ended up cutting the coilpacks and the plug leads down :shock:

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:21 am
by Cobratone
spend wrote:
ian.stewart wrote:I did away with the vacuum lines as mine were only goint to my fuel reg and as its not a rising rate system, they got deleted,
Don't they also act as balance pipes? Mine are all linked to a block which also houses vacuum takeoffs and the idle air valve.
yes, I use the vacuum lines for my brake servo takeoff and for the MAP sensor on the megasquirt

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 1:37 pm
by glen
that looks great!! is there a manifold for a ford 302 that i could modify for 8 gsxr tb's, anyone?

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:01 pm
by mjheathcote
That looks great.
I'm using gsxr throttle bodies on my Triumph Stag V8 so quite similair.

What size connections are you using for the vacuum take off on each throttle body, and it looks like you have joined them all together in the same size nylon pipe? I ask because I am interested whether the size is suitable to provide sufficient vacuum for the brake servo.

Also are you using MAP sensor only or also throttle position as well? I understand that using MAP sensor on such arrangements with multiple throttle bodies does not work too well?

Thanks,
Mike :)

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:32 pm
by Cobratone
mjheathcote wrote:That looks great.
I'm using gsxr throttle bodies on my Triumph Stag V8 so quite similair.
That sounds like fun, what are you doing about filters?
mjheathcote wrote:What size connections are you using for the vacuum take off on each throttle body, and it looks like you have joined them all together in the same size nylon pipe? I ask because I am interested whether the size is suitable to provide sufficient vacuum for the brake servo.
Not sure of the size, sorry but it's approx 6mm plastic hard pipe. They are all joined together into a vacuum canister, I use it for the brake take off and map sensor.
mjheathcote wrote:Also are you using MAP sensor only or also throttle position as well? I understand that using MAP sensor on such arrangements with multiple throttle bodies does not work too well?

Thanks,
Mike :)
I've tried tuning with both TPS and MAP based systems. Had good results from both but am probably sticking to MAP as I feel it gives me better control. There is poor vacuum at idle but it's good enough! Fortunately with the Megasquirt it's only a few keystrokes and I can change from TPS to MAP and back again if I want to :D

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:57 pm
by glen
mjheathcote wrote:That looks great.
I'm using gsxr throttle bodies on my Triumph Stag V8 so quite similair.

What size connections are you using for the vacuum take off on each throttle body, and it looks like you have joined them all together in the same size nylon pipe? I ask because I am interested whether the size is suitable to provide sufficient vacuum for the brake servo.

Also are you using MAP sensor only or also throttle position as well? I understand that using MAP sensor on such arrangements with multiple throttle bodies does not work too well?

Thanks,
Mike :)
can you post any pics of your manifold? i'm using gsxr tb's on my 302 as soon as i can get an inlet manifold fabricated. it was easy on a 4 pot, but i'm new to all this v8 stuff!

Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:41 pm
by kokkolanpoika
what size are those bodies? and what kind of hp you estimate?

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:07 am
by topcatcustom
Is it an issue not tying the 2 sides of the vally together with a 1 piece manifold as Dimitri was trying to sort out a while ago? He had issues with the block cracking in the valley if I remember and was trying to sort out a brace of some kind..

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:47 am
by Cobratone
glen wrote: can you post any pics of your manifold? i'm using gsxr tb's on my 302 as soon as i can get an inlet manifold fabricated. it was easy on a 4 pot, but i'm new to all this v8 stuff!
I have no pictures of the manifolds off the car but I'll try and take some of them on the car this afternoon.