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Long snout 4.6 crank with older style front cover.

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:28 am
by hoffbug
Hello
I am in the process of building a Buick/Rover hybrid engine.
I have a 4.6 block, and a 4.6 crank I plan on having offset ground to around a 3.4" stroke. The engine will use modified 1964 aluminum Buick 300 heads.

I had thought about using an interim front cover with the crank driven pump and provisions for a distributor..... but I live in the USA .....and interim covers are about as rare as hens teeth around here.


Q.How do I run the long snout 4.6 crank with the older short snout style front cover and associated components. Ie dampner,pullys etc...
? Is there some sort of spacer available?


Thanks, Tony
A Chevy guy who has a huge leanring curve with Buick/Rover V-8's 8-)

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:40 am
by katanaman
you can buy a spacer that lets you do this.

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:43 am
by hoffbug
Thanks Marki....

Can you point me in the direction of a couple of suppliers? websites etc.

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:56 am
by katanaman
only one that comes to mind is http://www.rpiv8.co.uk/ but it shouldn't be hard to make. I am sure someone on here will be able to give you the dimensions.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:15 am
by ChrisJC
The exact dimensions I don't know, but it's simple enough to work it out with an engine to measure. It's a thick walled piece of tube, that sits snugly over the crankshaft. Basically you put the pulley on (with timing cover etc in place), and it's clear that the crankshaft nut & washer poke out too far to hold the pulley. So you make the spacer to fit between the pulley and the washer.

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Also you may need to countersink one of the crossbolts depending on your oil pump configuration.

Chris.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:03 pm
by mgbv8
I didnt countersink my crossbolt. I just ground it off at an angle to get the early oil pump on. There is still enough meat on it to fit a socket.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:20 pm
by mgbv8
See here from Rimmer bros.

TIMING COVERS
If the timing cover you intend to fit to your short engine incorporates a crank-driven oil pump, please inform the Sales Department at the time of ordering (3.5 & 3.9 litre Standard Short Engines only).
Uprated 3.9 litre Short engines, as well as all Short Engines of 4.0 litres and above, are suitable for timing covers which incorporate crank-driven oil pumps. If fitting the earlier type of timing cover - with camshaft-driven oil pump - to a short engine of 4.0 litres or above, please also request crank spacer, part no. STC1893SPACER, which will ensure the crankshaft pulley is securely fitted. If in any doubt, a member of our Sales Department will be pleased to help you.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:19 pm
by stevieturbo
V8 Developments, a sponsor above, would also be able to sort you with a spacer.

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:18 am
by hoffbug
Thanks guys. Ill have to add this info to the list. Ill most likely be purchasing a single plane intake manifold from Wildcat in the spring. Maybe Ian has the spacers too.

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:24 pm
by CastleMGBV8
D&D Fabrications a bit more local to you, can probably supply a spacer or possibly a late front cover if you can run without distributor.

http://www.aluminumv8.com/tech/tech.htm

Others that may help could be Mantell Motorsports, Rebornco and BMC Brian McCullough? all in the states

Kevin.