Which axle???

[stevieturbo]

ahh rite, get you.

The best option is to build the axle to fit as many existing components on the car.

[Coops]

just looking on mosers site stevie,
custom shafts with c clip retaining groove built to your dims, $245.00
bearing and seal kit $30.00

had look on strange engineering bit of a confuseing site and cant find any 28 spline shafts

[stevieturbo]

just looking on mosers site stevie,
custom shafts with c clip retaining groove built to your dims, $245.00
bearing and seal kit $30.00

had look on strange engineering bit of a confuseing site and cant find any 28 spline shafts

forget the sites.

In order to get any custom shafts, you will need to fill in the order form, which is fairly comprehensive.

With all dimensions etc. You will need to speak to someone and then fill this in.

Forget trying to do it purely online. Speak to a human being !!

[Coops]

Been in contact with Ray at Hauser today,
what a nice man he is,
for a set of custom made shafts to what i want etc £275 + vat
and he said dont panic regarding the c clips they are reliable so using them is fine,
He has sent me a form to fill out with the measurements from current shafts BUT to put in the new length etc,

[stevieturbo]

There are a lot of measurements to take, so do it carefully.

Also...make sure the OD of the driving flange is stated. For some reason on my shafts ( both times too !! ) it was ignored and I had to get them machined down myself.

Better too big than too small though.

Also state required stud length, and its worth having the holes made the correct size for studs that will be sourced locally if required. Moser only seemed to fit very short studs to mine.

[Coops]

we are only having the holes put in,
will get my own longer studs from Ford as we did with the cappa axle,

yes there are a lot of measurements needed on the form

[Coops]

been chatting to caprisport today while measuring the shafts and axle tubes etc,
and as we dont need the axle done this side of crimbo,
we are thinking of going the route of changing housing ends to the 9" ends,
while setting the axle up today for measuring we were horrified with the amount of in and out movement the shaft has (both sides),
maybe ok on drum brakes but not so good on discs brakes/cornering,
so wheres the best place to get these housings and bearings?
also there seem to be loads listed on the net, large housings small housings etc, which do i need????
im going for custom 28 spline shafts too.

[stevieturbo]

been chatting to caprisport today while measuring the shafts and axle tubes etc,
and as we dont need the axle done this side of crimbo,
we are thinking of going the route of changing housing ends to the 9" ends,
while setting the axle up today for measuring we were horrified with the amount of in and out movement the shaft has (both sides),
maybe ok on drum brakes but not so good on discs brakes/cornering,
so wheres the best place to get these housings and bearings?
also there seem to be loads listed on the net, large housings small housings etc, which do i need????
im going for custom 28 spline shafts too.

In and out movement has absolutely nothing to do with the end bearings. Or do you mean side-side movement ?

If you're changing the flanges on the axle to 9", you may as well just leave it up to ARRC or Hauser, as it will have to be done properly in a Jig for proper alignment.

Then just let them order shafts, housings, bearings etc.

Trying to do anything else when you dont have the appropriate knowledge of parts required will just turn into a f**k up.

[Coops]

bugger,
looks like i may stay using the c clips then,
was told to avoid the eliminators as they leak if used on the road a lot.

[stevieturbo]

My first set of Moser elims did leak a little, no big deal really.

Second set were bone dry.

Third set again, a tiny bit on one.

The Mark Williams ones are bone dry. Apparently Strange's are a better design than Moser too.

Different makes seem to be better or worse...again Moser do seem to be at the lower end. Once these are pressed on, they are on. Apparently they can be removed for bearing replacement, never did figure out how other than a big angle grinder destroying them.

And from what I understand, you cant fit Strange elims to Moser shafts etc etc etc

The Mosers were a massive roller bearing in an aluminium housing, all one piece effectively.

The MW was a two piece steel housing, with a large Taper style bearing inside.

So while they may have safety benefits, if they arent needed, dont use them. They can of course be fitted at a later date anyway quite easily.

So what is the in/out movement you refer to ?

[Coops]

cheers for that Stevie,
the movement is, grab the shaft flange, and pull towards you then push towards the diff, there seems to be a lot of end float, i think that is the correct wording yeah?

[stevieturbo]

cheers for that Stevie,
the movement is, grab the shaft flange, and pull towards you then push towards the diff, there seems to be a lot of end float, i think that is the correct wording yeah?

The only thing that can cause that......well, look inside the diff and see !

C-clip stops it pulling out.

Diff pin stops it pushing in !

There really shouldnt be much at all I'd think.

[Coops]

worn diff pin?

[stevieturbo]

Again, you'd need to build it up and see where the movement lies, and what can be done to rectify it.

If the pin is ok, then perhaps a spacer shim could be added under the c-washer to take up any slack. Obviously not enough to allow the c-clip to come out though

Some axles do run disc brakes, and I assume all OE fitments use the c-clips, so end float must be within acceptable limits on these.

In fact...a friend was recently working at a big Escalade, and it had rear discs and definitely had c-clips.

[Coops]

may of found a company right on my works doorstep that do axle narrowing,
http://www.valleygasspeedshop.com/index.html
have sent them a mail for pricing, and may pop in after work on Tuesday to chat to them,