Rover P6 front cover

esprits1v8 · Post by **esprits1v8** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:02 am

I need to use the Rover P6 front cover due to clearance issues, but not keen on the rope oil seal! do Rover do a later cover with the same layout as the P6 but with a better oil seal? Thanks Rob

bones · Post by **bones** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:48 am

RPI ENGINEERING do them, about £10 .

rich

RoverP6B · Post by **RoverP6B** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:31 am

Hello Rob,

Rover Classics have neoprene seals for the P6 front cover.

http://www.rover-classics.co.uk/

Ron.

DEVONMAN · Post by **DEVONMAN** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:01 pm

Rob.
The SD1 front cover has a better oil pump and later oil seal and bolts straight on.
regards Denis

esprits1v8 · Post by **esprits1v8** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:07 am

DEVONMAN wrote:Rob.
The SD1 front cover has a better oil pump and later oil seal and bolts straight on.
regards Denis

Hi Denis,
does the water pump fit the same and oil pump? thanks Rob

esprits1v8 · Post by **esprits1v8** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:11 am

RoverP6B wrote:Hello Rob,

Rover Classics have neoprene seals for the P6 front cover.

http://www.rover-classics.co.uk/

Ron.

Hi Ron,
yes they do, thanks for the link.
Regards
Rob

RoverP6B · Post by **RoverP6B** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:00 am

Hello Rob,

The oil pump gears for the P6 front cover are shorter than those for the SD1 and all subsequent Rover V8 engines with camshaft driven oil pumps.

As a result gears for both covers cannot be inter changed. You can buy the deeper gears for the P6 cover which also come with a spacer plate to fitting between the oil pump cover and the front (timing) cover.

If you already have a P6 fromt cover and the oil pump gears, distributor etc then keep that system. It works fine, served my original 3.5 for 33 years and 203,000 miles.

Ron.

esprits1v8 · Post by **esprits1v8** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:57 am

RoverP6B wrote:Hello Rob,

The oil pump gears for the P6 front cover are shorter than those for the SD1 and all subsequent Rover V8 engines with camshaft driven oil pumps.

As a result gears for both covers cannot be inter changed. You can buy the deeper gears for the P6 cover which also come with a spacer plate to fitting between the oil pump cover and the front (timing) cover.

If you already have a P6 fromt cover and the oil pump gears, distributor etc then keep that system. It works fine, served my original 3.5 for 33 years and 203,000 miles.

Ron.

Hi Ron,
I will be using the hotwire efi, so would it not be best for me to use a sd1 cover,oil pump to fit the hotwire dizzy?
Thanks Rob

DEVONMAN · Post by **DEVONMAN** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:06 am

esprits1v8 wrote:
DEVONMAN wrote:Rob.
The SD1 front cover has a better oil pump and later oil seal and bolts straight on.
regards Denis
Hi Denis,
does the water pump fit the same and oil pump? thanks Rob

The water pump will fit the SD1 cover but if you fit an SD1 cover then a solution is to fit an SD1 dizzy also to get over the oil pump drive issue highlighted by PoverP6B
Regards Denis

Ian Anderson · Post by **Ian Anderson** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:12 am

Sounds like the set up I have in the GT40

3.9 block
P6 Pump
But no idea on which dizzy and oil pump (Dizzy has been drilled for the extra oil feed and braided hose fitted

If you need to have a look / photos and ask more questions from knowledgable people on there let me know

Ian

esprits1v8 · Post by **esprits1v8** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:52 am

DEVONMAN wrote:
esprits1v8 wrote:
DEVONMAN wrote:Rob.

The water pump will fit the SD1 cover but if you fit an SD1 cover then a solution is to fit an SD1 dizzy also to get over the oil pump drive issue highlighted by PoverP6B
Regards Denis
can I not change the bottom drive on the dizzy to match the sd1 pump? regards
Rob

esprits1v8 · Post by **esprits1v8** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:57 am

Ian Anderson wrote:Sounds like the set up I have in the GT40

3.9 block
P6 Pump
But no idea on which dizzy and oil pump (Dizzy has been drilled for the extra oil feed and braided hose fitted

If you need to have a look / photos and ask more questions from knowledgable people on there let me know

Ian

Hi Ian
I have no room for the P6 water pump! the engine is too close to the bulkhead! but it does use a P6 front cover and a special P6 pump blanking plate with outlet. Hence the reason for wanting to upgrade the cover but still keep the P6 water pump fitment.
Thanks
Rob

Ian Anderson · Post by **Ian Anderson** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:54 am

esprits1v8 wrote:
Ian Anderson wrote:Sounds like the set up I have in the GT40

3.9 block
P6 Pump
But no idea on which dizzy and oil pump (Dizzy has been drilled for the extra oil feed and braided hose fitted

If you need to have a look / photos and ask more questions from knowledgable people on there let me know

Ian
Hi Ian
I have no room for the P6 water pump! the engine is too close to the bulkhead! but it does use a P6 front cover and a special P6 pump blanking plate with outlet. Hence the reason for wanting to upgrade the cover but still keep the P6 water pump fitment.
Thanks
Rob

Bulkead probably easier to modify than the parts. make an inspection hatch with whater bulge you need to get the parts fitted. - That's the way we do it in GT40 land

Ian

DEVONMAN · Post by **DEVONMAN** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:14 pm

esprits1v8 wrote:
DEVONMAN wrote:
esprits1v8 wrote: can I not change the bottom drive on the dizzy to match the sd1 pump? regards
Rob
Rob
I believe you can swop the dizzy drive BUT by the time you have bought a new gear/joggle drive it probably would be cheaper to get a secondhand efi dizzy.
Regards Denis