roll cages

bones · Post by **bones** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:21 pm

hi all again,just a quick question, can a 6 point bolt in cage be welded in stead, its just the bolt in is £100 cheaper, thanks for any help,although i dont see why it cant, i would rather ask your advice just to make sure,

rich

Paul B · Post by **Paul B** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:30 pm

bones wrote:hi all again,just a quick question, can a 6 point bolt in cage be welded in stead, its just the bolt in is £100 cheaper, thanks for any help,although i dont see why it cant, i would rather ask your advice just to make sure, rich

You should really check with the relevent racing authority for the sport you plan to use it in.

If it is just for road use and cool looks, you might want to consider what happens to your head when you whack it against a roll cage with no helmet on.

bones · Post by **bones** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:35 am

no its not for looks, its for street n strip, need to strengthen the chassi up, as its got a 302 going into a mk1 escort. as for head damage. most people think ive got that already for chopping around an rs 2000,

.

Alley Kat · Post by **Alley Kat** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 12:39 pm

Companies sometimes won't insure stuff with a rollcage, because it says 'competition' and because of the steel bar/head interface thing. Worth checking out with yer insurers.

edit - PS - with a modified Mk1 yr prob eligible for the NSRA insurance scheme, which rocks. Must be pre-72 RWD & 'modified'. The scheme doesn't worry about cages, nitrous, engine sizes, etc. Just don't bother with the NSRA forum though...

Paul B · Post by **Paul B** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:26 pm

Alley Kat wrote:Companies sometimes won't insure stuff with a rollcage, because it says 'competition' and because of the steel bar/head interface thing. Worth checking out with yer insurers.

edit - PS - with a modified Mk1 yr prob eligible for the NSRA insurance scheme, which rocks. Must be pre-72 RWD & 'modified'. The scheme doesn't worry about cages, nitrous, engine sizes, etc. Just don't bother with the NSRA forum though...

I have my Morris hot rod insured with the NSRA scheme. For an agreed £6000 value, and a 3.5 Rover V8, unlimited mileage, fully comp, WITH breakdown insurance, I pay £220 a year.

You have to send them full spec, info and piccies of your car and get an 'estimate' of the value first.

I hear what you're saying about the NSRA forum, a cat fight most of the time, but their 'tech' forum is worth a look for useful info.

bones · Post by **bones** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:27 pm

hi ya, im a member of the nasc, and i insure all my cars with roadsure. looking at some diagrams of weld-in cages and bolt-in i take there isnt to much of a problem doing what i asked, but now another question, which ones is best a safety devices, omp, or a sparco roll cage, also i cant find any info on the dia of the tubing, anyone help with this. and although i think it should be ok to weld up a bolt in cage,the people on here have far more knowledge of cars than me, so is it yes or a no, all the best and thanks for any replies.

rich.

ian.stewart · Post by **ian.stewart** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:30 pm

Rich, There is no reason why you cant weld a bolt in cage, My cage is bolted onto welded in plates with retained nuts, so at least I have the option of removing the cage if I need to do some work, A fella to talk to is Gary at Retro, used to be into Drag racing, but now builds mostly old skool fords for road and track, and may have a old cage knocking about, he does do nice work if you need bits made, and I dont think he is too far from you.
Ian,

http://www.classicrsfords.co.uk/retromotorsport.htm

adikt · Post by **adikt** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:43 pm

Heads up to Gary, He's done some great work for my mates mk1 escort. top notch work.

btw ian, The smoking GNU? Terry pratchett fan eh?

ian.stewart · Post by **ian.stewart** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:04 pm

adikt wrote:

btw ian, The smoking GNU? Terry pratchett fan eh?

Going Postal??

adikt · Post by **adikt** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:44 pm

hahah, yes! it was my holiday read when i went to madeira at christmas

bones · Post by **bones** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:40 am

well Gary is about a 3 minute walk from my house, and hes done work on my other car, thanks for all the advice all, all the best

rich.

bones · Post by **bones** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:04 pm

hi all, i got my roll cage today, its a bolt-in one, but as ive said up above its being welded in, be lucky

Rich

bones · Post by **bones** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:27 pm

ok i have another question, i need to put some extra bars in ,is it ok to use square tubing ,it would be used behind the seats, for a tunnel brace and rear strut brace and lower back stays, i know i can buy roll cage tubing at £16 a metre, but the sqaure tubing i can get free, any advice welcome,

Rich

ian.stewart · Post by **ian.stewart** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:39 pm

Depends if you want it to look right or look like a banger racer

kiwicar · Post by **kiwicar** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:32 pm

most race authorities insist on seamless tubing for roll cages, square section is rarley seamless. interesting that they don't always insist the chassis is seamless!

It always looks better if the roll cage is in round section.
Mike

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