Pumps, the eternal conundrum
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- Nick Moore
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Pumps, the eternal conundrum
I know this question's been asked before in various ways - I'd like to know what brand of low-pressure (ie carburettor) fuel pumps people here swear by, or at. I've been reading comments on various forums (including this one) on Facet pumps, Holley red/blue, Carter... for each you can find some people saying they're an ideal solution, while others report unreliability, fluctuating pressure, dreadful noise or short lives. I was thinking of using a Holley Red pump, for instance, until I read this:
"Surprisingly, when my partner called Holley's "Tech" center yesterday, he was told that both the "red" and "blue" pumps were NOT designed for continuous daily-driving use, but only for racing conditions lasting a few hours at a time. Holley's tech adviser then told him that this is the reason Holley offers rebuild kits for their pumps!! YIKES!!!"
So far the only pump no one has criticised is the original mechanical P6V8 pump! And as I'm planning to put an Edelbrock 500 carb on an improved P6V8 engine, I might just stick with the original, unless someone can suggest a reliable electric alternative?
"Surprisingly, when my partner called Holley's "Tech" center yesterday, he was told that both the "red" and "blue" pumps were NOT designed for continuous daily-driving use, but only for racing conditions lasting a few hours at a time. Holley's tech adviser then told him that this is the reason Holley offers rebuild kits for their pumps!! YIKES!!!"
So far the only pump no one has criticised is the original mechanical P6V8 pump! And as I'm planning to put an Edelbrock 500 carb on an improved P6V8 engine, I might just stick with the original, unless someone can suggest a reliable electric alternative?
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I know nothing about uprated fuel pumps, but if the engine's not a howling demon, why not try a Range Rover external fuel pump?
The can be mounted where you like, are electric, and shouldn't have any problems in a daily driver!
Just a thought.
Tom.
The can be mounted where you like, are electric, and shouldn't have any problems in a daily driver!
Just a thought.
Tom.
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My first facet only lasted 2 weeks , but was replaced FOC when I sent it back. ( 14 months after I bought it).
The Holley worked fine but was very noisey. (Too noisey) Sold it.
I am running at the moment with a Red Facet with a pressure regulator.
I have a 3.5 approx 170bhp.
Dave
The Holley worked fine but was very noisey. (Too noisey) Sold it.
I am running at the moment with a Red Facet with a pressure regulator.
I have a 3.5 approx 170bhp.
Dave
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Re: Pumps, the eternal conundrum
I'm using the second smallest facet solid state pump, done 4500 miles on it so far with no problems.Nick Moore wrote:I know this question's been asked before in various ways - I'd like to know what brand of low-pressure (ie carburettor) fuel pumps people here swear by, or at. I've been reading comments on various forums (including this one) on Facet pumps, Holley red/blue, Carter... for each you can find some people saying they're an ideal solution, while others report unreliability, fluctuating pressure, dreadful noise or short lives. I was thinking of using a Holley Red pump, for instance, until I read this:
"Surprisingly, when my partner called Holley's "Tech" center yesterday, he was told that both the "red" and "blue" pumps were NOT designed for continuous daily-driving use, but only for racing conditions lasting a few hours at a time. Holley's tech adviser then told him that this is the reason Holley offers rebuild kits for their pumps!! YIKES!!!"
So far the only pump no one has criticised is the original mechanical P6V8 pump! And as I'm planning to put an Edelbrock 500 carb on an improved P6V8 engine, I might just stick with the original, unless someone can suggest a reliable electric alternative?
Having said that, you need to make sure it is mounted below fuel level and back near the fuel tank, else you will get all sorts of tapping and clacking noise from it as it digests air bubbles and whatever else causes it.
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I use a facet red top, and it's been faultless for over 2 1/2 years and 6000 miles (despite reports of unreliability). It's mounted on rubber bobbins, and also below the tank, so always gets a good fuel supply.
It's quite noisy when priming, but soon quietens down once the pressure comes up. Once the engines fired up you'd never hear it over the din!
I did notice that the pressure was a little high for my weber 500, so I now run a filter king regulator, although the car did run OK without it!
Jeff
It's quite noisy when priming, but soon quietens down once the pressure comes up. Once the engines fired up you'd never hear it over the din!
I did notice that the pressure was a little high for my weber 500, so I now run a filter king regulator, although the car did run OK without it!
Jeff
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