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Building a Roll Cage

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 4:28 pm
by smokeonthewater
Hi
Does anyone have any advice about building a roll cage, I need advice on everything really like tube diameter and wall thickness, how to join the cage together and how to fix it into the car.

I have been looking on tinternet and havn't found many pics or diagrams to get a good enough idea of where to start.

I dont want it to weigh to much, it needs to be quite strong, but not going to be going 200mph or rallying into trees (I hope), but also I wont be able to afford hugly expencive hightensile carbon steel or anything else fancy :(
Many thanks
Ed

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 4:36 pm
by Coops
have you not looked into buying a pre made one???
may work out cheaper in the end as they mass produce them,

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:40 pm
by kev_the_mole
Like Helmets (i.e. if you've got a $20 head buy a $20 helmet) you get what you pay for.

A professional cage has got to be the way to go unless you have all the skills and equipment in the first place.

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:42 pm
by smokeonthewater
Dont really know where to look but I doubt they make them for '65 Austin Cambridges as they were hardly designed as a performance car :lol: :lol:
Can you buy std parts and just sort of mix and match till you get one to fit :?:

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:01 pm
by kev_the_mole
What are you using the car for? Hope it's not banger racing! :D :D :D

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:10 pm
by smokeonthewater
No I wouldnt do such a thing :lol: :lol:
Its my only car that I use it for everyday duties, but Im slowly changing it into a sort of v8 powered road going rally car.

The main reason I want the roll cage is to offer me & my passenger (only 2 seats) a bit of protection should it all go wrong, because I dont realy trust its ability to suvive a crash :shock: :?

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:20 pm
by kev_the_mole
Have a look on http://www.robinson-race-cars.co.uk/.

They've done an Austin A35 and there's some good pictures which would give you an idea for a home-brew cage. All you'll need to do is scale it up and then you'll need some seamless tubing, a big pipe bender, a decent welder, some floor plates and various other brackets. I'd ask them for a quote and then you'll know the sort of build budget you'll have to beat.

If it was me I'd be sh1tting myself every time a wheel lifted because i know how bad my welding is! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:28 pm
by smokeonthewater
Nice one thanks :D :D
Ill prob get in touch like you say.
Looks like it might cost more than I was hoping (Im not tight just skint :( ) but looks top stuff
Ed

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:03 pm
by IainB
smokeonthewater wrote:Nice one thanks :D :D
Ill prob get in touch like you say.
Looks like it might cost more than I was hoping (Im not tight just skint :( ) but looks top stuff
Ed
Budget around £125 / £150 per corner though, not cheap but worth it if you do have an off

Actually John is closer for you... http://www.john-sleath.com

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:24 pm
by GreenV8S
The MSA Blue Book has a lot of information about roll cage design and construction. You may not need to comply with the Blue Book if you aren't planning to race/sprint it, but there's a wealth of information about how to make it safe, which I assume is your goal.

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:52 pm
by ian.stewart
Give Dave a ring, @ http://www.retroford.co.uk/ He is in Corby or try Northants Motorsport, both can probably make or supply a box of bends for your requirments.

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:01 pm
by Paul B
smokeonthewater wrote:Nice one thanks :D :D
Ill prob get in touch like you say.
Looks like it might cost more than I was hoping (Im not tight just skint :( ) but looks top stuff
Ed
You could always start with just a simple basic roll bar, welded to two pads bolted solidly to the floor. Then fit a diagonal. Then expand on that, but you'll need a tube bender, and some tube that can be bent without distorting.

Retrocar magazine did an article on building a roll cage a year or two back too. Check their website, see if they have a back-issue reference section.

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:11 pm
by diamond dave
I'm sure Safety Devices do "one off" roll cages at a reasonable price.

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:18 pm
by ian.stewart
If you decide to go for a SD cage read this, and if you were not aware, all SD cages are now made in POLAND, :shock:
http://www.turbosport.co.uk/showthread.php?t=115889
and before you say gary dosent know how to fit a cage, he builds top notch race, rally and road car for a living
Ian :D