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cats and there emission reductions
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:58 pm
by v8 pete
is there anyone who know or and direct me to a website that can help
im struggling to get the emissions down on my 4.6 v8 in a westfield
at the moment its a about 3co 2400hc co2 9% and lambda od about .9999
its the hydrocarbons that are the problem .im runnng weber 500 carb
and mallory dizzy .
if i fit cats just for the sva test how much will they bring down the hydrocarbons .
i know they wont last long with carb but just need to get through its first test.
need to know if hc is 2400 what will they go down too
regards pete
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 5:10 pm
by katanaman
I am no expert on cats but generally they need to be used with injection. Carbs don't meter fuel as accurately resulting in rapid demise of cats. They are a bit on the expensive side for that.
Re: cats and there emission reductions
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:18 pm
by stevieturbo
v8 pete wrote:is there anyone who know or and direct me to a website that can help
im struggling to get the emissions down on my 4.6 v8 in a westfield
at the moment its a about 3co 2400hc co2 9% and lambda od about .9999
its the hydrocarbons that are the problem .im runnng weber 500 carb
and mallory dizzy .
if i fit cats just for the sva test how much will they bring down the hydrocarbons .
i know they wont last long with carb but just need to get through its first test.
need to know if hc is 2400 what will they go down too
regards pete
Those numbers dont make sense.
2400ppm HCC is crazy high. Thats serious running problems there, unless the camshaft is a total monster. And even then....those emissions are still mental.
Either you have a valve sealing issue, camshaft problem or cam timing, or a serious missfire at idle.
HCC are unburnt fuel getting through, and 2400ppm is MASSIVE, in capital letters.
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:34 pm
by v8 pete
it not a standard cam
if i increase idle it does go down 1000rpm =1500hc ppm
increase revs more and it comes right down
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:35 pm
by CastleMGBV8
Pete.
What cam. if you have very low vacuum at idle the rods in the carb may be lifting into rich mode and you may need to replace with weaker springs which control the rods.
Has the carb been calibrated for the engine and do you have the handbook, if not you can download from the Edelbrock website.
Kevin.
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:38 pm
by stevieturbo
v8 pete wrote:it not a standard cam
if i increase idle it does go down 1000rpm =1500hc ppm
increase revs more and it comes right down
Even still, unless its a big cam, that still sounds quite high.
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:23 pm
by v8 pete
carb had been tuned for engine but 269bhp but it was probaby set up for power not sva. prevous owner of engine .4.6l cam unknown modfied heads
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:33 pm
by Tricky
Pete what you running with the Mallory Ie coil Msd ???
and what cam???
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:15 pm
by v8 pete
mallory with normal coil and ballast resistor .cam unknown
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:31 pm
by Tricky
if its a big cam you will always have problems with emmisions.
i think your problrm is inginton
i dont think the fuel you putting in is being burnt.
You need a bigger spark,
Look at ungrading to Msd unit and matching coil .
Not cheap but well worth it
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:50 pm
by v8 pete
does this make big difference
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:05 pm
by stevieturbo
what plugs and plug gap ?
Is the ignition system in good order ?
Ive a good used Crane Hi6 and coil here. Although the Crane gold box works fine, the tacho output doesnt work.
Although I think your existing dizzy could stil drive that ?
Not 100% convinced a std ignition system would be so bad though to cause sich high emissions though.
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:09 pm
by Tricky
I have just changed to a mallory un-lite msd blaster ss coil and a MSD 6al
i had big problems with running rich at low rpm
been on a rolling road today not far from you and the new ingintion system has sorted it
What the msd does it gives multi spark up to about 3000 rpm which helps burn the mixture thus giving a better burn and that means lower HC"s
i run a 5.2 rover in my TR7
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:10 pm
by v8 pete
mallory dizzy contactless new plugs 7s i believe and good leads 25thou gap
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:39 pm
by stevieturbo
7's sound like very cold plugs ? Have you tried something like a 5 heat range ?