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I am worried that I might have dropped a bit of a clanger.....

I bought a running 3500 V8 Range Rover engine coupled to a 5 speed manual box for my kit car (Seven Style). I am hoping I can use this for 2WD. Have I got the wrong gearbox or am I worrying needlessly?

Many Thanks


Stuart

Have you got a pic?

How do I send pics on here?

I think you have dropped a clanger.

The 4WD box has a very long bellhousing and input shaft, and of course the rear end is different as well. How simple it is to convert to a 2WD box at the rear I don't know.

Chris.

Stuart i got your message , it sounds like it might be a Flapper setup you have , easy way to tell can you see through the airflow meter ..?

the other thing if it's from a rangerover it will be a 4wd manual box and the gearbox and the bell housing are differant for the 2wd
even the flywheel is differant , the rangy clutch and flywheel won't fit inside the 2wd bell housing
what you need is an SD1 bell housing and an SD1/TR7 or sherpa gearbox they will all do the job
TR7 boxes are normally the cheapest on ebay

this is the 2wd bell housing and box

If its out a rangerover its almost certainly the wrong box you have as it will be 4x4

stuartl wrote:I am worried that I might have dropped a bit of a clanger.....

I bought a running 3500 V8 Range Rover engine coupled to a 5 speed manual box for my kit car (Seven Style). I am hoping I can use this for 2WD. Have I got the wrong gearbox or am I worrying needlessly?

Many Thanks


Stuart

You could buy the LT77 that "TheV8Kid" has up for sale for 100 quid, that box will work fine on a 3.5 lump. I believe (but could be wrong) that the 4x4 boxes have the wrong ratio's for starters. The clutch plate might need to be changed if you use the LT77 as the splined shaft could be a different size compared to the box that you have got at the moment.

Pete

Thanks for all the tips guys! I have a manual flywheel so I can use that at least. I wont get the LT77 just yet as I havent got any room until I get rid of some of the redundant engine parts. I will contact the V8kid and see about his gearbox. Thanks for all the tips.

Next question is who wants a five speed Rangey Gearbox???

[quote="stuartl"]Thanks for all the tips guys! I have a manual flywheel so I can use that at least. quote]

the flywheel is differant , the rangy has a larger clutch cover so the hole in the flywheel in the wrong place to bolt an SD1/ldv clutch to and you will need to change the spigot bush in the end of the crankshaft too as it's smaller diam on the 2wd lt77
be careful as the LT77 is 2 and 4wd , it just refers to the distance between the gears = 77mm
if your handy with the spanners .. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Rover-V8-5-speed- ... 240%3A1318

or if these have right size spigot tip 16mm i think , will do the job too , you will still need the bell housing ..
this one has the REALLY expensive gear stick holder too

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Gearbox-for-LDV-2 ... 240%3A1318

Stuart,

I have a SD1 flywheel and clutch available in the for sale section if your not to far away.

http://www.v8forum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5104


Kevin.

Sorry, perhaps I wasnt clear. I have a separate flywheel that came from an SD1. Can I remove the rangey one and bolt on the SD1 flywheel then use an SD1 clutch and LT77 gearbox?

Sorry to sound so clueless

yes

although you will need to change the spigot bush in the end of the crankshaft for a smaller diameter one , as far as i can remember the rangy uses a 5/8" internal diam one and the SD1 uses a 12mm or 13mm one ??

if you start looking for an SD1 clutch people go "that'll be a huge amount of money please "
have a look here :http://www2.qha.com/q-pid/QPID.aspx?user_id=&session=
the kit you want is a QKT207AF ..but if you look at the seperate parts you will find that the plate and cover cross with loads of other things and it's only the thrust bearing that is differant , favoutite is LDV cluches , have a look on ebay i got my last set ( plate and cover ) for under £20 NEW

Great stuff, thanks!

Is it a big job to change the spigot Bush?

not really i drilled my old one out till there was hardly any meat left and bent it inwards with a screwdriver , and to put the new one back is easy too , no need to ream it

stuartl wrote:Great stuff, thanks!

Is it a big job to change the spigot Bush?

If you can find a solid bar that is a good fit in the bush that you want to get out you can hammer it out. The bar needs to be a good fit but not a tight fit. (You can push it in and out by hand)

You then fill the bush up with grease and place the bar in the hole and it it with a hammer, the grease then pushed the bush out of the crank. You need to re-pack the bush with grease several times. It sounds mad but it does work!

Pete