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Belts and Tensioners!!!!
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:15 pm
by topcatcustom
Hi again, sorted out the manifold and the nitrous- now thinking about the blower drive belt!
Using an Eaton M112 and I have 2 reasons for thinking I should stick with the standard ribbed belt and pulleys:
1) Price is a priority! (even if a 2" toothed one would look fantastic)
2) If anything goes a bit wrong it will allow the belt to slip a little without blowing something up
Am I talking rubbish or does that sound pretty reasonable?
If I stay with the ribbed belt (I am a fabricator btw) do I need to really tighten up the belt like you do do with a fan belt or does it have to be sprung so it adjusts automatically if it expands at all?
Many thanks
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:06 pm
by Blown v8
dont tighten a ribbed belt as much as your fan belt, you will only burn out your bearings !
a sprung tensioner sounds good, but if no major manufacture has made 1 in all these years. Theres probally a good reason why !
I havent had any trouble with my tensioner, traditional is the easiest way to go ! you want to be unique go for it
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:42 am
by topcatcustom
So is the norm a 'tighten and lock' job- like normal belts?- just wasnt sure if they expanded much when they got warm or anything...
Am I right in thinking that the big toothed belts sap some power too?
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:53 am
by kev_the_mole
Hi,
no transmission belt should have a sprung tensioner. Belt can jump the pulleys by overcoming the tension of the spring. Tooth belts are 96-97% efficient, ribbed belts a little less and a well adjusted V-belt comes in as low as 92%. If you can machine the pulley blanks we can put teeth on them for you which essentially halves the price and we'll see what we can do on the belt as a V8 Forum special
Cheers,
Ian
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:19 am
by topcatcustom
Thanks, I'l keep it in mind as I havent even mounted it on the engine yet but will definately talk to you when I get round to it, does the idler/tensioner keep it all lined up with toothed belts or does everything have to 110% perfectly lined up?!
Also any ideas on ratio's? Want the engine to last a while and it will be kept pretty standard so thinking around 7/8psi?!?!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:03 pm
by kev_the_mole
Usually the driver pulley (crank) should have flanges to guide the belt and the idler should be rigidly mounted as possible. Other variations are possible but would need to see a sketch of your proposals.
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:50 am
by topcatcustom
Any idea what sort of ratio I will need to get the 7/8psi on a M112 atop the 3.9? (so I can start on the pulleys)
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:19 am
by kev_the_mole
I think this has been comprehensively covered before in these hallowed pages
Do a search on 'supercharger' and you should find some good info.