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girlfriends peogoet

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:20 pm
by ppyvabw
My girlfriends peugoet broke down tonight. I have only heard the symptoms over the phone haven't seen the car for myself. Am trying to diagnose it over the phone.

It died on her. She said she tried to start it again, it would idle (from what she and her dad say it sounds like its firing on 3 cylinders). When she revs it, it dies and when she puts it under load it dies.

The guy who towed her home said its either a failed plug or coil pack. Doesn't sound like this to me, because it would still be driveable on 3 cylinders. She couldnt get it to move, it just died.

She tried to start it so I couldlisten over the phone and it wouldnt even turn over, just the solenoid clicking in.

Its one of these all singing all dancing ones that changes its own wheel when it has a puncture etc....so is a bit beyond my caveman knowledge.

I thought it might have been the ECU, or maybe a fueling problem until the starter died to. All the rest of the electrics work.

She is a bit challenged with cars, as most erm...erm...members of the fairer sex are so am not really getting a good idea of whats happening because Im not at home.

What do you guys think? I dont even know what the car is. I think its a 206.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:31 pm
by ihatesissycars
Coil pack, crank or cam sensor, there's s**t loads it could be! Probably best to get a main dealer to diagnose it then once you know what it is replace the parts yourself.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:34 pm
by ppyvabw
Certainly dont think its a plug or coil pack. It would run on three cylinders.

Grrrrr, modern cars!!

Told her to get a chuffing mini. I could fix it then

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:55 pm
by ihatesissycars
For the love of god NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Not a mini!!!!!!!!!!!!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:00 pm
by Coops
nowt wrong with mini's gav.
had the best years of my life in my old H' reg mini. can still remember the reg, who 622h
had a 1308 stg2 engine and went like fook,

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:04 pm
by ihatesissycars
Rust.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:05 pm
by Coops
nope she was rust free,
and it would give our capris a run for there money from the lights

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:11 pm
by ppyvabw
Not at all, nothing wrong with minis, except if you're 6'2" like me.

My brothers Midas kit car had a mini engine in it, 286 cam, stage 3 heads... went like fook. Unfortunately he rolled it into a ditch doing 80 into a sharp bend. (erm....whislt innibrieted? anibriated?....whilst drunk) Dad gave him a good b********g which he deserved TBH.

No just meant if she got a nice basic car then I could would have been able to fix the bloody thing but instead she got this thing thats going to cost her god knows how many hundreds/thousands to get fixed because I just dont have the knowledge and equipment to work on modern cars.

It did go through a foot of water the other day apparently. Can't have done it the world of good I dont imagine, but should have been ok.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:11 pm
by ihatesissycars
I'm sorry, well I'm not actually as I spent some of the worst years of my life welding up the god awful rust buckets.

Here's the reason for my deep hatred of the satanic 4 wheeled mini nightmares!

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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:12 pm
by ppyvabw
Yeah, minis do suffer from rust, a lot.

They aint undersealed properly in the factory

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:54 am
by ChrisJC
Sounds like fuel starvation - has it got fuel?

Chris.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:50 am
by chodjinn
Sounds like crank sensor or ECU as gav said. French cars (esp. peugeots and renaults) are know for it. Three of my mates, all with Clios, had their cranks sensors/ECUs go haywire. Pain in the arse!

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:51 am
by ppyvabw
ChrisJC wrote:Sounds like fuel starvation - has it got fuel?

Chris.
I thought that until the starter died to. Dont know if thats also under the control of the ECU.

The gauge says its half full, but I told her to take the cap off and shake the car to listen for fuel but she wasn't strong enough.

Was thinking, if its a coil pack, could that effect the others in some way?

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:39 pm
by Ian Anderson
It's a bad earth on the system
AKA a short

Or the Alternator is knackered

So the battery voltage is so low the ECU and fuel pump don't work -originally enuf to let the engine run but not enuf to work properly

It has now drained the battery enough for it not to restart.

Get your multimeter out and test it

Ian

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:25 pm
by ppyvabw
Not at home so I can't test it, up to other people ti fix it for her. And suddenly everyone is an expert on cars so they all tell her stuff.

I think you may be right Ian, because it's completely dead now apparently. Her dad don't have a meter though, or a spare battery so got to wait until tomorrow untill her dad's mate comes.