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Clutch trouble
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 1:25 pm
by Ianrhall
Got the manual box in my rover cortina now
Fitted a new master cylinder-standard ford(3/4 I think) new slave cylinder. Bled it and bled it!! Have quite a light pedal,it is operating the clutch but not enough, feels like I have about 2" of movement before anything happens. Wondering if I either have incompatible components or if I need adjustable pushrods one end or the other
Any suggestions most welcome
Ian
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:56 pm
by richardpope50
To me it sounds that you are not really moving the clutch - I had that problem and had to re-calculate the requirement of volume of fluid to push to make slave cylinder to move enough. Quite an easy calculation and may be the Ford 3/4 master is not pushing enough volume as a Rover one would assuming it is a standard Rover gearbox.
Having calculated the correct M/c requirement then the length of pedal will determine how light the action will be. In case you need it, Wilwood make various size aftermarket M/c and larger than the normal Girling, etc. I used a Wilwood one to enable my Dax pedal to move enough fluid as the (typical kit car) Girling one did not.
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:05 pm
by stevieturbo
Standard Ford master cylinder ? in a Cortina ?
Surely they were all cable clutches ?
3/4" is fairly large as far as master's go so assuming pedal travel is normal it should be shifting a lot of fluid
Clutch
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:12 pm
by Ianrhall
Mk1 cortina has hydraulic clutch.
Extended the pushrod in the slave end and have improved things
Ian
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:22 pm
by stevieturbo
At rest, pedal high.
Fluid should be free to move from slave to reservoir..ie push the slave rod and it should move and fluid enter the reservoir.
Likewise at this rest position, the slave rod should be fairly well retracted, but also with only a small amount of free play between the fork and slave.
That's to ensure you have the max travel available.
If things dont work after that, and you are sure you're all bled up, there is a leverage mismatch somewhere.
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:50 pm
by mike-b
Hi,
What gearbox is fitted? I ask because the rover 5-speed LT77 uses a different release bearing carrier & bearing to the T5.
I have the T5 with a 3/4-inch master and the standard rover slave with the standard length push rod on my Granny.
If the T5 is fitted you must use the carrier and release bearing meant for the T5 though the standard slave can be used.
Mike-b
Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:24 am
by gelmonkey
LT77 used two different types of bearing carrier.
Short one for the 2.6 and a longer one for the 3.5.
I do have a longer one here that I can measure if that is any help to you?
Had exactly the same problem with a mates car years ago and took ages to find out cause.
No forum available back then
Also original clutch cylinder was a 0.625 Girling if my memory is still working as it should so a 3/4 should shift loads of fluid.
One other point and I'm not taking the pee do you have the slave cylinder mounted the right way up with the bleed nipple to the top?
If not turn it 180 and try bleeding again
P