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twin turbo rover v8 twin carb afr ratio

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:51 pm
by mcmental
What should be ideal afr ratio please? Whilst its sat ticking over and the lc-1 is plugged into laptop its showing high readings (18) but this does drop when throttle is pressed, I'm going to test drive tomorrow to get true readings on boost etc when engines warm.

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:19 am
by kiwicar
Hi
Idle around 15:1 maybe 15.5:1 but really whatever gives you a stable idle without hunting. As long as when boost comes it goes to about 12.5:1 then at Idle you want it as lean as it will go and still be stable. If it is draw through then the atomisation and mixing should be very good so it should be able to burn nice and clean and not build up carbon deposits.
Best regards
Mike

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 8:26 pm
by thewedgeshop.com
I would like to see under boost AFR around 11.5 to 12.0 and no higher.

Idle doesn't really matter as long as it is not smoking.

Thanks
Clint

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 9:20 pm
by sidecar
I can't get my 4.6 lump anyway near 15:1 at idle, it has a reasonably hot cam and very free flowing exhausts which probably don't help. (Neither does the Eddy carb!). Anyway it's fine at 12.2:1 and goes rough if I lean it off to 12.5:1

I don't have any turbos to mix the air and fuel up either! Dunno why I posted really! :shock:

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 10:46 pm
by DaveEFI
Factory spec idle on a Vitesse is approx 14.1:1, if that helps.

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 10:59 pm
by stevieturbo
I'd be very surprised if you had a stable idle at 15 or leaner.

Idle, anywhere between say 13.5-15.0:1 would be acceptable. 13.5 may not pass MOT or be borderline, but it would be a good strong idle mixture

On boost. Many variables, ie boost, compression, intercooling etc etc.

12.0-12.5:1 may be fine on a low boost application running nowhere near knock/detonation. It absolutely would not be fine running more boost or with higher charge temps etc.

11.0-11.5:1 is a fairly generic safe target for most builds whilst on boost.

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 5:40 am
by Eliot
No way would my dakar idle at 15:1 - needs around 13:1

Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 9:27 pm
by mgbv8
Mine is most happy with AFR at 12.8 - 12.5 at idle. 11.5 at full pedal.

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 10:18 am
by SimpleSimon
sidecar wrote:I can't get my 4.6 lump anyway near 15:1 at idle, it has a reasonably hot cam and very free flowing exhausts which probably don't help. (Neither does the Eddy carb!). Anyway it's fine at 12.2:1 and goes rough if I lean it off to 12.5:1

I don't have any turbos to mix the air and fuel up either! Dunno why I posted really! :shock:
Smaller 4.0 with lairy cam and minor mods wont idle smoothly unless at 13.5 or richer, any leaner and it runs like poop and makes the cam sound splashier than it is 8) splashier! is that a word? :roll:

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:17 am
by sidecar
SimpleSimon wrote:
sidecar wrote:I can't get my 4.6 lump anyway near 15:1 at idle, it has a reasonably hot cam and very free flowing exhausts which probably don't help. (Neither does the Eddy carb!). Anyway it's fine at 12.2:1 and goes rough if I lean it off to 12.5:1

I don't have any turbos to mix the air and fuel up either! Dunno why I posted really! :shock:
Smaller 4.0 with lairy cam and minor mods wont idle smoothly unless at 13.5 or richer, any leaner and it runs like poop and makes the cam sound splashier than it is 8) splashier! is that a word? :roll:

I bet your Mega squirt is allowing you to run it leaner than if a carb was fitted. For example I can not run my cruise any leaner than 15:1 but I know of engines with squirters that will go much leaner, oh well I still like my carb!

Er you don't live in or near Wokingham do you?