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Can anyone tell me what these bracket things are?

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:48 am
by chodjinn
This may seem like a daft question, but I'm trying to find out the name of the small cylindrical tube sections that are used on race cars to hold bodywork etc. on, as seen in the pic below. It's the small parts that the bolt goes in, holding the intercooler in place. I need a bunch of these and not sure whether you can buy them off the shelf of would have to make some myself?

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:22 am
by DaveEFI
Rivnuts?

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:16 am
by chodjinn
I meant the cylindrical things that the bolts go into, that the frame is welded to. There are two that the top of the intercooler bolt to, which are welded to the thin support frame.

Wanting to know if I can buy them in packs or have to get them machined on a lathe etc.

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:29 am
by Darkspeed
I am assuming that you mean this sort of thing

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I make my own - You can use thick form washers for the base and I have also machined stepped inserts for jobs I have done in the past

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Ignore if its just rivnuts that you mean.

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:51 am
by chodjinn
Yes! Cheers Darkspeed. I guessed I might have to make my own, not a problem I suppose, more welding ;-)

And is a form washer just a normal washer?

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:01 am
by Darkspeed
Washers come in a number of "forms" thicknesses and diameters

http://www.fastenerdata.co.uk/fasteners ... s4320.html

So for instance a 25mm tube with an M8 mount - I would use a Form G washer - The tube I would use would be 1.5mm wall so a 2mm base would suit depending on application.

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:05 am
by chodjinn
Yeah I have just had a look on ebay, both washers and tubing are very cheap so I am just going to buy a few lengths etc. and see how I get on.

Many thanks!

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 5:19 pm
by Ian Anderson
Dzus fasteners

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:54 pm
by chodjinn
Ian Anderson wrote:Dzus fasteners
Nope no good for what I need. The stuff darkspeed posted is exactly what i was after. Already measured up and buying stuff tomorrow! :-D

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:13 am
by chodjinn
Darkspeed wrote:Washers come in a number of "forms" thicknesses and diameters

http://www.fastenerdata.co.uk/fasteners ... s4320.html

So for instance a 25mm tube with an M8 mount - I would use a Form G washer - The tube I would use would be 1.5mm wall so a 2mm base would suit depending on application.
Right they are stainless washers, I can't weld that at the moment can you get mild steel ones? I've looked around and struggling to find mild steel washers in the right thickness

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:33 am
by Darkspeed
The form does not designate a material.

Just put From G washer in ebay and you will have loads of sellers - Plain/Black finish can sometimes be a pain to get on ebay ( I use a local fastener stockist) If you go for BZP or Zinc plated all you will need to do is give them a rub over on a bit of 240 wet and dry to remove the coating for welding

For example

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M8-M10-M12-M1 ... _q2TwygxGw

https://www.toolfastdirect.co.uk/acatal ... shers.html

You will never run out ;)

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:43 am
by chodjinn
I just managed to find some on ebay actually, but thanks for the links! I never thought of rubbing off the zinc coating at all :roll:

I went for 16.3mm x 1.4mm washers, and 19.2mm x 2mm tubing which should be ok for the bolted parts.

The support struts will be 16mm x 1.5mm tubing.

Managed to get the lot (inc. 5x 1m lengths of tubing) for just over £20. Will give it a try and see what I can rustle up, thanks for the help so far mate!