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Post by Eliot » Sun Dec 25, 2011 7:25 pm

kiwicar wrote:Hi
Been having a bit of a think about your idea of using 2 ro34s on an SBC. Say you had a 350 chev, went for a max revs on the engine of 6500, a max revs on the supercharger of 5000 revs, If you assume 100% VE at peak revs, yes unlikley but for the sake of argument! that gives you a pressure ratio of about 1.8:1 or about 12 psi boost. I don't think I would go for less than about 9 PSI boost as the losses in driving 2 blowers would be proportionally high at low revs making the engine peaky and that would be a pain on a blown engine. Looking at it logically a 383 (3.75" crank) or 396 (3.875" crank) chevy small block with the pair of RO 34 blowers under driven by about 30%, good ally heads with 190 or 200cc inlet ports, about 8.5 to 8.75 CR and a sensible hydraulic cam would see a very interesting engine. If you mounted the blowers onto a common plenum with an water intercooler under each and port fuel injected it with a megasquirt set up I recon you would have a very interesting looking set up that gave very good power (550 to 625 BHP depending on cam) and it would look stunning.
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Post by greased-up-deaf-guy » Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:56 am

Thanks for the reply mike! Im liking the idea of the two wades more and more. The fabrication work alone is making me want to do it. I know they are old and not that efficient but i happen to have two and that saves me buying another type, in the future i could alway swap them out.
I have come across a sbc that might be for sale and was built with 1000hp in mind :) i'll keep you updated.
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Post by kiwicar » Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:21 am

Hi Eliot
can't disagree with you, they are old tech and there are better units, however he has 2 already and fabricating skills to do the job. On that basis it is the cheepest option, for what he would get for the pair on ebay would not even buy a 6-71 for rebuild let alone a snout to go with it. He could get lucky and trade the pair for a blower off a jag, but would still need another one for a Chevy.
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Wade r034 rebuild

Post by Mark32 » Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:14 pm

I have two r034 wade blowers for v8 rover and want to refurb.
Does anyone have a workshop manual in pdf form they can provide.
Keen to ensure I rebuild to exact tolerances.
do the gears require a special tool to remove as example.

When I finish I will have a spare r034 for v8 rover engine available for sale.
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Post by kiwicar » Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:21 am

hi
If you are going to put a ro34 on anything bigger than a 3.5 rover it will be too small. Even a 3.5 they only make about 5 or 6 psi boost. On the 383 analasys id ages ago in this thread I missed the bit about pumping eficiency I think these units are about 70% efficient Max, an unblown 383 SBC on 200 cc port heads and the right cam will make 420 to 450 bhp without anything too fancy going on, adding 100 to 150bhp to that with a blower is very little extra and you will notice I said it needed an intercooler to do it. Stick a 6 71 on there and you would be looking at 720, 750 bhp wih the intercooler. What I was saying was it would make good basis for a show motor as he already had 2 of them ready go.
please consider a 4 71 for the rover rather tha sinking hours into refurbishing the ro34s
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Post by Blown v8 » Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:24 am

What Mike says is true......But
I've had two Wade R034's,both on 3.5's,
The best sounding blower IMHO,tremendous fun,a good blower to use for a learning curve.I then went to a 4:71,then to a 6v71,
I have no regrets having owned the Wades,especially as they were half the price as the GMC

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Post by Mark32 » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:59 pm

Thanks
I want to refurb the wade r034 blowers on a sd1 3.5 v8
Looking for advise on how to remove the gears, check tolerances and bearing wear and what is viable to refurb .

A PDFs workshop manual would be welcomed to follow to rebuild setup and install.

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Post by kiwicar » Sat Feb 07, 2015 11:50 am

Hi
I used to have a copy of this can't find it now but from what I remember it gives a basic guide to clearances and refurbishment. It is not exactly up to date, but it is a working guide. I would find an oem application then look for the manual for that engine, I have no idea who used them originally but look for generator sets and farm machinery. You may find the manuals are now "collectables".
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Post by mcmental » Mon Jul 03, 2017 4:02 pm

hi there does anyone still have a PDF copy of the wade information please?

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Re: manual please please send me a copy I'm desperate lol I'm a newbie

Post by Tinworm » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:58 am

CarbonWedge wrote:
Mon May 03, 2010 6:04 pm
Thanks crappycresta that would be great! Let me know the best way for you to send it, if you need anything for the trouble, let me know.

Cheers, Paul

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